Where can I find an ADSL Router that supports multiple PPPOE connections?

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Arrow

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Hi,

I'm trying to locate an ADSL Router that is capable of establishing and load balancing multiple PPPOE connections, so that I can use multiple ISPs and redirect different types of traffic through separate accounts. I know that it is possible to get a router that supports half-bridge mode, which would enable me to establish a second PPPOE connection from a PC and the primary connection from the router, but I'd prefer to find a router that can manage multiple PPPOE connections. I'd prefer to find a commercially available product rather than something that I need to customise or adjust the firmware, however if I really have to make those sorts of adjustments then I'm prepared to do it.

I've tried searching everywhere and nobody seems to be able to provide a manufacturer and model number. Has anyone here managed to find such a router, or known of someone who has managed to purchase/develop such a solution?

Many thanks!
 
I doubt you would get such a device, at least not for home use. If you do get then it's probably a rack mount with a hefty price tag.
 
Not gonna happen. As soon as you PPPoE all the QoS goes out of the window.

The only way I know of to do this is with a custom rolled linux solution. I looked into it a while back - way too hardcore for me.

How about you rather tell us what you want to achieve here instead...
 
The only way I could see that working is if you set up a dedicated machine to be your gateway, and run some software on there that does what you want.
 
Thanks for the feedback everyone - I really appreciate the advice.

Perhaps I need to explain why I'm looking for such a device and then maybe you guys can suggest an alternative: I have two ISP accounts, one from FNB and another from Afrihost. I'd like to be able to connect a few PCs that are bandwidth intensive (i.e. P2P and gaming) on my uncapped Afrihost account and leave the PC that is used for web browsing and email to use the capped FNB account.

I was hoping to find an ADSL router that would establish multiple PPPOE connection, which could then connect to Afrihost and FNB and manage the traffic between the two ISPs.

I suppose I could use a router that supports half bridge and establish a PPPOE connection from the web browsing PC to FNB, while leaving the rest to connect via Afrihost, but I've never tried establishing a PPPOE connection from a PC and I was trying to avoid anything too complex as my father will be using that PC.

I'd really appreciate any further ideas and comments. Thanks!
 
HI..

You can create a shortcut to dial in via bridge mode.

You drop that shortcut in startup and it dials as soon as you log onto the pc ?
 
Two routers with software to load balance the connection would be best. Would probably need another pc for this, like a dedicated gateway with bridged nics, each plugged into a router.
 
Ja, but that's a bit of overkill for what he needs to be honest. :D If he wanted to router certain traffic types over more than one account, then it might have started getting a bit more complicated.

But if some PCs need to be on one account, and the rest on another, just use bridge mode. No new hardware needed.
 
czc said:
Like with routesentry or trafficsplitter.
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Yeh, but RS isn't really needed here :D. And you don't even have to setup your PC to use multiple WAN adapters because you only need to run one PPPoE in this case.

The setup for RS is more of a schlep than what's even needed for this, hahaha. :P
 
Hi Everyone,

Thanks for all the feedback. I think I'm going to follow the advice that most of you have given and use a half bridge router with a PPPOE connection established during startup via a shortcut.

Thanks again for the help. If anyone does ever come across a router that supports multiple PPPOE connections, please just leave a response in this thread. I'm sure there'll be someone who'll need such a solution at some point :-)
 
Arrow said:
Hi Everyone,

Thanks for all the feedback. I think I'm going to follow the advice that most of you have given and use a half bridge router with a PPPOE connection established during startup via a shortcut.

Thanks again for the help. If anyone does ever come across a router that supports multiple PPPOE connections, please just leave a response in this thread. I'm sure there'll be someone who'll need such a solution at some point :-)
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Well ofcourse there are routers that do this :)

Fortigates, Sonicwalls, Juniper FW, etc. Any high-end router with multiple WAN ports. Hell, you could even use a Cisco with 2 or more ADSL WIC cards, but all of this is just totally overkill for the purpose you need it for. Not to mention crazy expensive.
 
Its not the multiple PPPoE links thats the issue - its managing them that. Directing them depending on IP range etc is doable, but once you add QoS it becomes vicious.
 
HavocXphere said:
Its not the multiple PPPoE links thats the issue - its managing them that. Directing them depending on IP range etc is doable, but once you add QoS it becomes vicious.
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Well..QoS is usually applied to interfaces, so depending on which interface traffic is being pushed through, QoS will apply. Setting it up, however, is not necessarily up everyone's alley. :D
 
to0kenZA said:
Well..QoS is usually applied to interfaces, so depending on which interface traffic is being pushed through, QoS will apply. Setting it up, however, is not necessarily up everyone's alley. :D
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No I meant if you put a box in between & want to QoS across multiple interfaces. Since they are both running down the same pipe simultaneously just QoS on the interfaces individually isn't going to be good enough.
 
Seeing that you want to load balance your ADSL connections for SPEED, and do not want to set both up for redundancy, have you considered UPGRADING just one of them :D

Like to0kenZA said, there are some routers available that do multiple connections, yet these are going to be DAMN expensive (much more expensive than my two-router with dedicated VM / PC Gateway / Firewall). For example, our company has a Juniper that cost over a million, and this can connect to multiple upstream providers.
 
HavocXphere said:
No I meant if you put a box in between & want to QoS across multiple interfaces. Since they are both running down the same pipe simultaneously just QoS on the interfaces individually isn't going to be good enough.
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Lol, I don't know why I was thinking he had 2 ADSL lines for some reason. Hahaha :D. I'm so used to working with corporate internet solutions :P (which are usually a bit more high-budget than those of peasants like us average home users.)
 
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