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It's an i5 3570k @4.2Ghz, GTX 970, 8GB DDR3 RAM. I rolled back to the GTA V driver last week, new driver doesn't seem very stable.

I bet you it's the GTX 970 that makes the world's difference. As far as I could understand from my conversation from Joker, the 9xx series cards use a better optimized driver with a completely different tessellation model and some other nitty gritty stuff that improves the performance of the game.
 
Visually, I think the game looks fantastic as well - sometimes I'll just stare into the background to look at waving trees. :)
However, I will say: GTA's lighting does definitely look better. Lighting in here looks dated -- plain, if you will. Like I say though, in spite of that... take away the lighting and just look at the environment and take in the atmosphere - it's very enthralling!
 
And the worst part for me is that I wasn't even following the hype-train! I had no expectations going into this game besides my love for Witcher 2. I had huge respect for CDPR and Witcher 2 is one of my all-time favourite games. There's a huge patch coming this week though, so I guess I'll hang on 'till then and see what goes.

Yeah man, sorry to hear that. Hopefully the patch will help. I heard that the 1.03 patch helped a lot of people that couldn't run the game at all to be able to run it. Hopefully the next one will improve things further.
 
I bet you it's the GTX 970 that makes the world's difference. As far as I could understand from my conversation from Joker, the 9xx series cards use a better optimized driver with a completely different tessellation model and some other nitty gritty stuff that improves the performance of the game.

I dunno man it sure does look like nVidia is sabotaging the older cards through poor drivers, it's very concerning.
 
Visually, I think the game looks fantastic as well - sometimes I'll just stare into the background to look at waving trees. :)
However, I will say: GTA's lighting does definitely look better. Lighting in here looks dated -- plain, if you will. Like I say though, in spite of that... take away the lighting and just look at the environment and take in the atmosphere - it's very enthralling!

Yeah, very rich world and atmosphere. So beautifully done and engrossing. Add to it the music, dialogue and voice acting. Simply Sublime!
 
For the guys wondering about 7xx vs 9xx (Kepler vs Maxwell)

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014...orce_gtx_980_video_card_review/3#.VWLygUbSJv0

Maxwell, or GM204 is NVIDIA's 10th generation GPU architecture and is made up of 5.2 Billion Transistors and measures 398 mm2. NVIDIA's goals for Maxwell were increased gaming performance, incredible energy efficiency, and added support for VXGI lighting. The comparison of Maxwell should be made back to the original Kepler GK104 GPU which was the GeForce GTX 680. Compared to Kepler, Maxwell has 2x the performance and 40% more performance per CUDA core.

The original Kepler diagram can be compared here. In GeForce GTX 980, each GPC ships with a dedicated raster engine and four SMMs. Each SMM has 128 CUDA cores, a PolyMorph Engine, and eight texture units. With 16 SMMs, the GeForce GTX 980 ships with a total of 2048 CUDA cores and 128 texture units.

The GeForce GTX 980 features four 64-bit memory controllers supplying a 256-bit total. Tied to each memory controller are 16 ROP units and 512KB of L2 cache. The full chip ships with a total of 64 ROPs and 2048KB of L2 cache (this compared to 32 ROPs and 512K L2 on GK104). NVIDIA was able to integrate 2x more SMs without doubling the die size.

We know GTX 680 is not the fastest Kepler GPU out there right now, that is GeForce GTX 780 Ti. We will make comparisons to GTX 780 Ti when we look at the card itself on the next page. There is a reason these comparisons are being made to GTX 680, and we will talk about that later in the "Who is this card meant for?" section.

Based on efficiency and workload analysis, and math vs. texture processing requirements of modern games, NVIDIA engineers determined that eight texture units per SMM is the best architectural balance for Maxwell; therefore, the total number of texture units is the same as Kepler, 128. However, thanks to GeForce GTX 980’s higher clocks, texture fill rate improves by 12% from one generation to the next. To improve performance in high AA/high resolution gaming scenarios, we doubled the number of ROPs from 32 to 64. Again, thanks to the added benefit of higher clocks, pixel fill-rate is actually more than double that of GTX 680: 72 Gpixels/sec for GTX 980 versus 32.2 Gpixels/sec for GTX 680.

The memory subsystem has also been significantly revamped. GTX 980’s memory clock is over 15% higher than GTX 680, and GM204’s cache is larger and more efficient than Kepler’s design, reducing the number of memory requests that have to be made to DRAM. Improvements in our implementation of memory compression provide a further benefit in reducing DRAM traffic effectively amplifying the raw DRAM bandwidth in the system.

You can compare the original Kepler SMX diagram here. You will see the Maxwell SMX units are divided up differently. Firstly, a new PolyMorph 3.0 engine is being used, this is upgraded from Kepler's PolyMorph 2.0. The PolyMorph engine is the heart of tessellation performance in Kepler and Maxwell. With the architectural improvements in the PolyMorph Engine in Maxwell plus more SMs in GM204 the engine can achieve up to 3x performance improvement with high tessellation expansion factors.

Each SMM contains four warp schedulers, and each warp scheduler is capable of dispatching two instructions per warp every clock. The scheduler has been improved to reduce redundant re-computation of scheduling decisions. Maxwell SMM is partitioned into four distinct 32-CUDA core processing blocks, each with its own dedicated resources for scheduling and instruction buffering. Maxwell SMM units feature a 96KB dedicated shared memory, while the L1 caching function has been moved to be shared with the texture caching function.

Maxwell achieves 2x performance per watt vs. Kepler. There is an improved scheduler and new data path organization on Maxwell. Overall there is a 40% improved performance per CUDA core. What does that mean? You need less CUDA cores to match the same performance. So yes, there are less CUDA cores compared to GeForce GTX 780 Ti, but, these CUDA cores are delivering 40% more performance on each one, so that makes up the difference! Plus all the other improvements.

As a result of these changes, each Maxwell CUDA core is able to deliver roughly 1.4x more performance per core compared to a Kepler CUDA core, and 2x the performance per watt. At the SM level, with 33% fewer total cores per SM, but 1.4x performance per core, each Maxwell SMM can deliver total per-SM performance similar to Kepler’s SMX, and the area savings from this more efficient architecture enabled us to then double up the total SM count, compared to GK104.

The 7xx is pretty much dead in the water.
Nvidia are also not doing anything to further performance on the 7xx on the driver side.
 
Don't get me wrong guys, I really do want to enjoy this game to the fullest, but as usual, there seems to be a disconnect between NVIDIA and the dev, once again because of NVIDIA's greed.

The clunky controls is something I can get used to, but don't come fuck around with an almost R9000 GFX card and tell me it's not good enough to run the game with all it's features when a card using the same architecture can, just because they don't feel like optimizing the drivers to make more money.

The game breaking bugs will most likely also be addressed in the patch so that's not a biggy, I can understand that.


Oh, I forgot to mention that I have a GTX580 in my PC as well, dedicated to PhysX. You'd think that would take a load off the CPU and main GPU, but apparently it doesn't :)
 
Probably only because of all the complaints from 7 series owners got loud enough.

Exactly this lol

I remember actually posting about this awhile ago and I remember being met with Nvidia defenders and now it seems this issue is blowing up...Which makes me happy!!
 
Probably only because of all the complaints from 7 series owners got loud enough.

Indeed.

Looking at the technical specs of the 780, the memory bus and amount of stream processors are MORE than that of the standard 980. I'm pretty sure the architecture difference is not that huge that they can't make an optimized driver. That is just utter BS if you ask me.

Anyway, here's my source for the 780 tech stats:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6973/nvidia-geforce-gtx-780-review
[MENTION=2051]JOKER[/MENTION] Thanks for the enlightenment bud.


Hopefully this consumer fuckery from NVIDIA will end soon when AMD brings out their secret weapon. Joker, if you will- /bows out to Joker :P
 
[MENTION=2804]to0kenZA[/MENTION] - edit [at]JOKER to [at]The Joker, otherwise he won't get the mention, at least I don't think he will.
 
lol Tooks, yeah Fiji XT will nail Nvidia to the ground.
Unfortunately it will be an expensive nail.

Heh, but you know me- I'd rather buy the expensive nail than to support a company that nails its consumers. Pun obviously intended.

[MENTION=2804]to0kenZA[/MENTION] - edit [at]JOKER to [at]The Joker, otherwise he won't get the mention, at least I don't think he will.

xD
 
Feel bad fro the guys having issues running on PC, Ive had absoluetly no issues. I am a bit of a noob when it comes to the hardware Im running but basically its the following.

Win 7 Pro
I5 not sure which one but its pretty new.
16GB Ram
AMD R something not sure which but its mid range.

Have half settings on Ultra, the setting I most wanted and the rest on high (Hairworks enabled). Game to me looks like its running silky smooth but maybe Im mistaken. How do you guys check your frames?

Biggest game changer for me was changing from Mouse and Keboard setup to X-1 controller.

Without a doubt this is the best game I have ever played, no RPG comes close to the story and world developement found in this game. Just WOW ......
 
[MENTION=2804]to0kenZA[/MENTION]

Thanks for the lengthy feedback. I will start the game open minded with zero expectations nor high hopes. Will provide feedback tomorrow morning after playing an odd hour or two this evening.
[MENTION=4071]BeoTeK[/MENTION] I have a similar PC, i5, 16gb ram, 970.. Will see how it runs. Flashed the latest firmware on my gigabyte 970 that improves alot of things, apparently. Will see how the performance goes on my PC this evening.
 
[MENTION=2804]to0kenZA[/MENTION]

Thanks for the lengthy feedback. I will start the game open minded with zero expectations nor high hopes. Will provide feedback tomorrow morning after playing an odd hour or two this evening.

[MENTION=4071]BeoTeK[/MENTION] I have a similar PC, i5, 16gb ram, 970.. Will see how it runs. Flashed the latest firmware on my gigabyte 970 that improves alot of things, apparently. Will see how the performance goes on my PC this evening.

Sweet dude, no problem. Let us know. By the looks of your specs you should be fine though. NVIDIA only hates their GTX 7xx customers :P
 
[MENTION=12147]Hagan[/MENTION] I dont what are those for? Framerates?

To check your system's specs.

You typed and I quote:

I am a bit of a noob when it comes to the hardware Im running but basically its the following.

Win 7 Pro
I5 not sure which one but its pretty new.
16GB Ram
AMD R something not sure which but its mid range.

Those programs should give you the necessary information about your PC.
 
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