PS3 hackers claim the console is now definitely cracked

Etiko said:
Wrong. Sony pissed off the wrong people when they removed the Linux support. Check these 3 videos where the hackers go in depth on how (and why) they did it:

Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuIlbmn-4A4
Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybm9-w7Bl2A
Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btDiX319P4w

It's quite clear these guys have no interest in piracy. They didn't even try and extract the game signing keys.
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Considering that is Sony's device that they designed, built and marketed shouldn't they get to decide what features can and can not be on it?
 
OmegaFenix said:
Was it still advertised as a feature after they removed the feature?
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Lol! Wtf does that have to do with anything? Lots of people bought it just for the fact that you could do it. Sony had no reason to criple it for those people who bought it to play around with the "Other OS" option.

If Sony left the "Other OS" feature, I'd go as far as to say that the PS3 would never have gotten cracked. Well, I guess some hardcore guys would still have tried to get access to the RSX though... So let that be a lesson to any console manufacturer in the future: Open up your console and it won't get hacked.

Anyway, watch the videos when you have 45minutes to spend. They are very interesting. Wish I had time to look into some of those techniques they've used. Amazing!
 
Etiko said:
Lol! Wtf does that have to do with anything? Lots of people bought it just for the fact that you could do it. Sony had no reason to criple it for those people who bought it to play around with the "Other OS" option.

If Sony left the "Other OS" feature, I'd go as far as to say that the PS3 would never have gotten cracked. Well, I guess some hardcore guys would still have tried to get access to the RSX though... So let that be a lesson to any console manufacturer in the future: Open up your console and it won't get hacked.

Anyway, watch the videos when you have 45minutes to spend. They are very interesting. Wish I had time to look into some of those techniques they've used. Amazing!
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It is, and remains, their device, which which they can do what ever they want. Add/Remove whatever features they want for whatever reason they want.

If these cracker's intentions where truly as noble as so many want to believe the cracks would be have been made available online. If a cracker was doing it for the reason of only testing his own skillz then that would have been fine. But by cracking it and releasing the crack on the net he/she/it/they have furthered piracy on the ps3, whether consciously or unconsciously.
 
OmegaFenix said:
It is, and remains, their device, which which they can do what ever they want. Add/Remove whatever features they want for whatever reason they want.
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What a sad world we live in where people think that the things they buy shouldn't belong to them :(
 
Etiko said:
What a sad world we live in where people think that the things they buy shouldn't belong to them :(
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Yes it does belong to them and had they kept it to them selfs there would have been no problem. By releasing this crack they have give other, who's intention are far less honorable than their own the ability to circumvent ps3 security mechanisms and pirate ps3 game. Thats like creating a drug resistant killer virus, taking it to the science fair and then handing out free samples to anyone.
 
Etiko said:
Wrong. Sony pissed off the wrong people when they removed the Linux support. Check these 3 videos where the hackers go in depth on how (and why) they did it:

Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuIlbmn-4A4
Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybm9-w7Bl2A
Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btDiX319P4w

It's quite clear these guys have no interest in piracy. They didn't even try and extract the game signing keys.
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Lol, then get a PC with Linux!! Problem solved!
 
Etiko said:
Lol, then don't advertise it can run Linux and then remove the feature a few years later!! Problem solved!
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They removed it because Geohot hacked the PS3, and for it, it was needed Linux. So, they removed Linux, so it can't be hacked
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if linux is indeed being used to hack the PS3, well, we can't blame Sony for removing it. Plain and simple. It's like, if your friend has a key to your room and things keep missing, are you not gonna take back the key from your friend? PS3 is made for gaming.. not for stupid military stuff whatever the other guy is talking about.
Sony has the right to do anything they made. Even if you paid full for a console, you only paid for the harwdare. All software and applications in it are still owned by Sony. Sony only gave you a privilege to use them. They can change them anytime. Softwares are not owned by anybody except by the people who developed them. We only pay for license to use the software. We don't pay for the software itself.
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So IMO Sony had just reason to remove it.
 
Once I pay for my hardware, I can do with it as I wish, as it is now my property and Sony has no further claim to it. Sony is welcome to introduce new features or remove them by way of update, but I have the choice whether to download them or not.
 
DenSweeP said:
Once I pay for my hardware, I can do with it as I wish, as it is now my property and Sony has no further claim to it. Sony is welcome to introduce new features or remove them by way of update, but I have the choice whether to download them or not.
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Thank you. There was ample warning this was coming. If you where using ur ps3 as a linux pc then the solution was simple. Dont down load the update.

"But then I can't play online" I hear you say. Well boo freaking hoo.
 
OmegaFenix said:
So IMO Sony had just reason to remove it.
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If you actually watched the videos I posted you would have seen that the first GeoHot hack was a simple "Tweaser attack". It had nothing to do with Linux as it was a hardware hack.

OmegaFenix said:
"But then I can't play online" I hear you say. Well boo freaking hoo.
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Troll much? Responses like these just kill your credibility.
 
Etiko said:
If you actually watched the videos I posted you would have seen that the first GeoHot hack was a simple "Tweaser attack". It had nothing to do with Linux as it was a hardware hack.



Troll much? Responses like these just kill your credibility.
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Tease attack or not, if sony believed that Linux support could grant people the ability to crack the ps3 they had just reason to remove it.

You misunderstand, many people arguments are based along the lines of "but i use it as a computer not a gaming console so they didn't have to worry about me pirating all my games and never, ever, buying one again." If these people truly used their ps3 as a linux computer and not a gaming console then removing it from the grid would not have been such a huge blow, since they never play games anyways.

Etiko said:
And that automatically makes what they did right? Nope, sorry.
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right and wrong is a point of view, to people who believe it is their right to be able to pirate games and do with their ps3 as they want sony is in the wrong. From Sony point of view it was the right thing to do to prevent any further hacking of their console, even if it didn't work. And to people who use their ps3 as a gaming console, the way it was intended, well we are pretty much not all that concerned.
 
OmegaFenix said:
And to people who use their ps3 as a gaming console, the way it was intended, well we are pretty much not all that concerned.
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honestly linux was proven to be sub standard and slower on the ps3 than the normal os. so really it's a stupid argument to use
 
Sony took the easy way out by killing Linux on the PS3. If Linux was the issue, rather than improve of fix the security chasm, they eliminate linux, thereby practically challenging the guys capable of doing this to crack the console. I'm not saying that puts the hackers/crackers in the right, but it did kinda throw down the gauntlet.
 
DenSweeP said:
Sony took the easy way out by killing Linux on the PS3. If Linux was the issue, rather than improve of fix the security chasm, they eliminate linux, thereby practically challenging the guys capable of doing this to crack the console. I'm not saying that puts the hackers/crackers in the right, but it did kinda throw down the gauntlet.
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agreed but if cracking it was motivated purely for the challenge of cracking it why then release the crack online? Why not simply send Sony an email say " I cracked it, better luck next time slug heads" or something. Why release it and give other accessed to piracy on the ps3.
 
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