EA pulls recent games from Steam

This doesn't look like a good move on EA's part :(
especially since quite a bit of users are not impressed with EA's past DRM attempts
 
TheAvenged87 said:
Hmmmm this has the potential to seriously backfire on EA. But I can understand where they are coming from with this. When you sell something, you want to make the most profit from each sale. So this is how they will approach it, trying to cut Valve with their magical Steam out of the loop.

But this might come back to bite them in the ass...
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True. I suspect though that the extra 25% (I think) cut that steam takes won't cover the loss in sales. People don't want more of these platforms. I had an opportunity to buy AoE3 at close to nothing on the Microsoft sale system...didn't take it though because I don't want another platform.
 
HavocXphere said:
True. I suspect though that the extra 25% (I think) cut that steam takes won't cover the loss in sales. People don't want more of these platforms. I had an opportunity to buy AoE3 at close to nothing on the Microsoft sale system...didn't take it though because I don't want another platform.
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Yeah...it all comes down to coins...that 25% that they had to hand over to Steam can (if accumulated) bring them some solid money. (Every 4 games that they now sell, they have actually sold and got the money for 5 (in comparison with how they sell on Steam). When we are talking about thousands of units, I think this will make a difference.

Lycanthrope said:
It already has. I wanted Alice, I now flat-out refuse to get Alice, therefore they've already lost one sale.

I get the feeling that I won't be the only one who turns my back on EA-published games if this is their idea of how to win customers over.
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I am sure that you will not be the only one. I think that they will initially lose a lot of customers, but that their numbers will grow again pending some good title releases.

But I do suspect that this will not last long.
 
iOverflow said:
This doesn't look like a good move on EA's part :(
especially since quite a bit of users are not impressed with EA's past DRM attempts
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Lycanthrope said:
Can you say "EA Download Manager?"
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Indeed. I very vividly remember EA's past exploits into forced bloatware...

shadowfox said:
removing their games from Steam is a bit of a bum move - I suppose it will make support for those games a little easier, but this now forces users to adopt yet another distribution service - given recent events (hackings etc) I'd be more inclined to reduce my presence online, rather than sign up for extra services. Also, why do I want another service clogging up my resources. Of course, I could always quit the one before launching the other, but ...

I'd be surprised if EA doesn't get any backlash from users because of this decision.
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They will be getting bumloads of said backlash. I blatantly REFUSE to have another distribution platform running on my PC for the sake of 1 or 2 games I ever play from EA.
Quitting Steam really isn't an option for me (and most others) at this point. What? Is Origin suddenly going to support all of my already-owned Steam-games as well?!


Murph said:
You mean, like a boycott? :p
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See next Quote.

Graal said:
No, you won't be the only. A game is going to have to pretty fucking good before I'll even consider it.
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Pretty much sums up how I feel, except I might not settle for "fucking good". Forcing me to install yet another platform for one single developer, said game better be CHANGING THE WAY THE UNIVERSE WORKS!

postal said:
I play alot of ea games so i dont really mind using there services. Plus maybe it will make there games a bit cheaper, instead of paying valve money to sell there games.
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Using Steam = 1000's of games available for purchase and play.
Using Origin = 10's of games available for purchase and play.

The disconnect is quite huge, and even if I owned and still played every single EA game ever made (minus the re-hash sports titles) it would STILL not make an entirely separate platform worthwhile...

TheAvenged87 said:
Hmmmm this has the potential to seriously backfire on EA. But I can understand where they are coming from with this. When you sell something, you want to make the most profit from each sale. So this is how they will approach it, trying to cut Valve with their magical Steam out of the loop.

But this might come back to bite them in the ass...
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It most definitely will come back. To bite. Bite hard. In SEVERAL soft spots...

TheAvenged87 said:
Yeah...it all comes down to coins...that 25% that they had to hand over to Steam can (if accumulated) bring them some solid money. (Every 4 games that they now sell, they have actually sold and got the money for 5 (in comparison with how they sell on Steam). When we are talking about thousands of units, I think this will make a difference.

I am sure that you will not be the only one. I think that they will initially lose a lot of customers, but that their numbers will grow again pending some good title releases.

But I do suspect that this will not last long.
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You suspect wrong. EA is knobheaded about these things. They will force this on every single game and in the process allienate a very large portion of their customers.
They will not back down from this one, I can assure you that they will ride it right up to the point of customer's submitting or leaving altogether.
I would prefer at this point that EA rather roll over and die of bankruptcy, and I can only pray to some unknown gaming deity that this does in fact, occur as speedily as possible.
 
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Look its a new system and it hasnt been online for more than month, after awhile they will offer specials and other cool offers (dlc) just like steam does. But if you really hate it that much u dont have use it, I myself dont really care what program i use. But one thing i do know is that i love battlefield games and orgin offers them and steam doesnt!
 
toys out of the cot much folks?

i'm still buying these games, as i'm in it for the games not the platforms

PLAY GAMES NOT PLATFORMS PEOPLE!
 
Tank said:
i'm still buying these games, as i'm in it for the games not the platforms

PLAY GAMES NOT PLATFORMS PEOPLE!
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Games, I'll happily support. Games served to me on a platter of shit? Erm, it's fine, thanks. More money I get to save, the way I see it.
 
Lycanthrope said:
Games, I'll happily support. Games served to me on a platter of shit? Erm, it's fine, thanks. More money I get to save, the way I see it.
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well the way i see it all dev's and pubs will start doing this sooner rather than later. believe that

so get used to "saving" alot more and playing alot less
 
Tank said:
toys out of the cot much folks?

i'm still buying these games, as i'm in it for the games not the platforms

PLAY GAMES NOT PLATFORMS PEOPLE!
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Of course, but quite a difference between platform and having thousands of digital distros with some of them being exclusive. Now I must use 'EDM' as well when I want those exclusive ea digital distros ? lol ?

In that regard, I'd rather support raven in his non steam and soon non origin quest.
 
Tank said:
well the way i see it all dev's and pubs will start doing this sooner rather than later. believe that
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Impulse, Direct2Drive, Windows Marketplace and numerous other store-provided digital distribution platforms have been around for ages. You know, I've never bought from any of them?

There are two that I use exclusively: Steam & GOG.

GOG gets priority over Steam because well, why wouldn't I support DRM-free distribution?

I don't like the idea of having a billion-and-one accounts lying around. Aside from how absolutely RIDICULOUS it is to ask someone to have a bunch of digital distribution clients running in the background of their PCs, the idea of having the equivalent of "an account per game" is just ludicrous and messy.

The fact of the matter is that publishers are more than welcome to try their hand at emulating Steam but there is only one Steam. It has more support (think localised servers), more experience and more longevity than any of these upstarts do so why would anyone trust any other digital distribution platform?

If you (general 'you') are interested in using Origin or whatever then by all means, you're welcome to it. I'll just be over here sticking to a digital distribution platform that has proven itself time and time again, has its own well-established achievements, servers, anti-cheat protection and in-game integration.

If anyone thinks that something as laughable as what the "great" EA can come up with--you know, those people who largely contributed to the failure that was Spore, who insist on spamming your PC with EA's Download Manager, who can't even maintain and effectively operate online support when something goes wrong with an account, could EVER compare then frankly, the joke's on you.
 
Lycanthrope said:
Impulse, Direct2Drive, Windows Marketplace and numerous other store-provided digital distribution platforms have been around for ages. You know, I've never bought from any of them?

There are two that I use exclusively: Steam & GOG.

GOG gets priority over Steam because well, why wouldn't I support DRM-free distribution?

I don't like the idea of having a billion-and-one accounts lying around. Aside from how absolutely RIDICULOUS it is to ask someone to have a bunch of digital distribution clients running in the background of their PCs, the idea of having the equivalent of "an account per game" is just ludicrous and messy.

The fact of the matter is that publishers are more than welcome to try their hand at emulating Steam but there is only one Steam. It has more support (think localised servers), more experience and more longevity than any of these upstarts do so why would anyone trust any other digital distribution platform?

If you (general 'you') are interested in using Origin or whatever then by all means, you're welcome to it. I'll just be over here sticking to a digital distribution platform that has proven itself time and time again, has its own well-established achievements, servers, anti-cheat protection and in-game integration.

If anyone thinks that something as laughable as what the "great" EA can come up with--you know, those people who largely contributed to the failure that was Spore, who insist on spamming your PC with EA's Download Manager, who can't even maintain and effectively operate online support when something goes wrong with an account, could EVER compare then frankly, the joke's on you.
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Lycanthrope said:
Impulse, Direct2Drive, Windows Marketplace and numerous other store-provided digital distribution platforms have been around for ages. You know, I've never bought from any of them?

There are two that I use exclusively: Steam & GOG.

GOG gets priority over Steam because well, why wouldn't I support DRM-free distribution?

I don't like the idea of having a billion-and-one accounts lying around. Aside from how absolutely RIDICULOUS it is to ask someone to have a bunch of digital distribution clients running in the background of their PCs, the idea of having the equivalent of "an account per game" is just ludicrous and messy.

The fact of the matter is that publishers are more than welcome to try their hand at emulating Steam but there is only one Steam. It has more support (think localised servers), more experience and more longevity than any of these upstarts do so why would anyone trust any other digital distribution platform?

If you (general 'you') are interested in using Origin or whatever then by all means, you're welcome to it. I'll just be over here sticking to a digital distribution platform that has proven itself time and time again, has its own well-established achievements, servers, anti-cheat protection and in-game integration.

If anyone thinks that something as laughable as what the "great" EA can come up with--you know, those people who largely contributed to the failure that was Spore, who insist on spamming your PC with EA's Download Manager, who can't even maintain and effectively operate online support when something goes wrong with an account, could EVER compare then frankly, the joke's on you.
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nice little diatribe you got going there. funny thing? back when steam launched it was also labeled crap. by almost everyone but it was given a chance to grow. but now once more you people (generalisation) can't do the same for the new platforms.

jokes on me? nah. bunch of hypocrites? for sure
 
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Tank said:
nice little diatribe you got going there. funny thing? back when steam launched it was also labeled crap. by almost everyone but it was given a chance to grow. but now once more you people (generalisation) can't do the same for the new platforms.

jokes on me? nah. bunch of hypocrites? for sure
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A diatribe? Hardly. Read my thread about how annoyed I am with BT Games, there's a diatribe for you if you feel like learning what that word means.

As for "hypocrites" who're these strawmen you've taken to attacking?

As I've said--Steam is a well-established digital distribution platform which has proven itself time and time again. "Established" means that it has already gone through many start-up niggles, issues and has proven itself as being capable. Its support staff are competent and able.

I've dealt with EA, repeatedly. EA are known--quite well, in fact, for being an incapable and largely blundering behemoth.

Hell, I've already explained all this, we're about to go around in circles as I explain semantics which, frankly, I'm not interested in right now.
 
Only advantage i can see is more competition but that can also have a problem when they all do exclisives
 
Tank said:
bunch of hypocrites? for sure
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I don't see where I attacked you personally for any view or stance you hold. I most certainly didn't resort to name-calling.

That out of the way... I purchased a PC. I did so with the intent to game on it as Sony has done it's damage to me over the last decade (or more) and frankly I wasn't going to have any more of it.
With PC acquired, I stood in front of a selection of distribution platforms available to me.
GoG, Steam, D2D, etc.
I carefully looked at each. Read their respective terms and conditions. Researched their past failures and achievements/progress. Looked at their security.
What I'm trying to get at, is that I made a very carefully planned decision to rest on - and use exclusively - Steam.

Now a company is basically coming out and saying "Steam isn't good enough for us. If you want to play our games, you MUST now start using OUR distribution platform".
Mark these words, for you might look back when October comes around with BF3 and even the retail version will force an Origin installation upon you in order to even get through the loading screen of installation...

Back to the point.
So I brought this Nissan. I like my Nissan. In my range of possibilities, I did a lot of research to find the right car for me. Now Sasol is saying that if I want to use their petrol, I can't have it pumped into my Nissan directly anymore. In fact their fuel plainly just won't work anymore, because they've decided that Sasol petrol and oil products will forthwith no longer work in anything but their brand-new released Sasol cars.

Sure. The analogy isn't perfect as Steam is, at it's core, a free platform. But with the games I have purchased for it already, it has long since turned into an investment.

Tread lightly EA.
Tread very very lightly indeed...
 
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