Bulldozer is the future.

It was delayd.... one can only imagine what it was like at the time of the postponement.

That said, it is a next gen. chip... they just need to do some optimising on it to get it up to standard. So lets watch out for the next iteration.
 
Thread revive.

I think I have posted it before but I was just going through this again.
So check the following. On stock BD and Sandy are pretty much equal on the BF3 beta bench.
Overclocked BD is 5.5% faster, so why people think BD sux is beyond me.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/10/11/amd_bulldozer_fx8150_gameplay_performance_review/2

Interestingly, when we overclocked the CPUs there was a slight shift with the AMD FX-8150 coming out technically faster. The difference in this case was 5.5%, which again wasn't anything we could actually feel or detect while we were playing the game. When it comes down to it, for the Open Beta, all three CPUs performed similarly, and we couldn't tell any difference between them in this game. If you put all three systems side-by-side, you would not be able to tell the difference.
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Also BD is alot cheaper than Sandy's top spec i7 2600k.
Also lets not forget what BD does to sandy when it comes to multi threaded applications.
 
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It does not suck, but AMD has now released a chip which is equal to the one Intel released a year ago...

The bulldozer was supposed to PWN the Intel...
 
I think it sucks...

It is only matching or slightly better than the 2500K in multithreaded applications. If I buy a chip i don't want it to be better in only a few things I do and terrible at others. If it was just a little slower on lightly threaded use I would be all for it. This is not the case though.

Hardocp are usually quite good at producing results that cover multiple angles but fall way short here with only looking at BD's strengths and completely ignoring the elephant in the room that is its lightly threaded performance.

One good piece of news I heard is that they are moving to TSMC, which could increase the quality of the chip and therefore the overclocking ability. This mixed with a large decrease in price should make the chip a lot better.
 
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I think it sucks...

It is only matching or slightly better than the 2500K in multithreaded applications. If I buy a chip i don't want it to be better in only a few things I do and terrible at others. If it was just a little slower on lightly threaded use I would be all for it. This is not the case though.

Hardocp are usually quite good at producing results that cover multiple angles but fall way short here with only looking at BD's strengths and completely ignoring the elephant in the room that is its lightly threaded performance.

One good piece of news I heard is that they are moving to TSMC, which could increase the quality of the chip and therefore the overclocking ability. This mixed with a large decrease in price should make the chip a lot better.
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Well I don't know which benchmarks you saw where it only just beat sandy bridge with multi threaded applications, but do some research and see what the fx8150 does to sandy when it comes to multi threaded applications, and I am not talking about game benchmarks.

Fact remains I'm sticking to it, and I am buying the FX8150 :D
 
I just picked at random the multithreaded benchies....

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Single/lightly Threaded;

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Second pass isn't too bad... (heavily threaded)
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So my point is that the only time it has a chance or does well is in heavily/multi-threaded games/apps... This isn't too bad as stuff is making use of more threads all the time. If it becomes more competitively priced it will be a no brainer, until then I would rather have something that is all round good than something that is occasionally exceptional, often bad.

I am still very keen on getting a BD chip just to mess around with it and see what it is like for myself, but trying to defend it at the moment is really difficult especially with its poor clock speed/OC performance. I am not an intel fan boy by any means, I jump on every opportunity to get an AMD product as I can.

BD is before its time. And AMD does not need before its time, what it needs is something on par with intel so that people can buy into it again.
 
Guess we'd year from Joker when he get's his mobo setup, I wonder how this preforms under ubuntu. Even better, how does it fare with ray tracing like the quake ray tracing project.
 
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Guess we'd year from Joker when he get's his mobo setup, I wonder how this preforms under ubuntu. Even better, how does it fare with ray tracing like the quake ray tracing project.
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I believe the linux chaps have done some optimisation on it already... keen to try it out too. Maybe this Dec I will go all out on the testing
 
Does anybody know when SA will be getting the BD chips? I have not many on SA online stores so I am guessing they are importing them as people are ordering.
 
I am still awaiting the arrival of my chip. was told now this coming friday...Meh the service in this country is omfg shit!!
Yes I will update as soon as I get my hands on the chip :)
 
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