South African team selected for Battlefield 3 Nations Cup tournament
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to0kenZA
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Aaand I think you will be missing the point until then, as well.
I find this hilarious, the majority of those of you who posted here, are so excluded from the mass of the BF3 community that you cannot comment on how things are being done.
Someone said that there has been no competition in BF3 in SA yet. There may not have been a formal competition (up and until MSSA trials) but many of the top teams have been practising against each other, they have been playing competitively and thus an idea of where teams stand has been formed.
I will not deny that the MSSA trials were short noticed and only had 6 teams in it, but the alternative was that no team would represent SA. So the general community decided to acknowledge the attempts made at organising an event where the teams available could participate.
Its your opinion that they're not the best, good for you. They (FiB) proved on the day that they were the better team, VS some of the top 5 teams, they came out on top. The fact that not all the teams were represented was a failure on your part, you choose not to participate in the community and take it on yourselves to bad mouth the teams who have given time and effort into what they love.
So here is my conclusive statement. To live up to your own delusions of grandeur, I challenge those who think they're better than the community to come out of the bat cave and challenge sG, FiB or ASF. We will welcome the challenge
Someone said that there has been no competition in BF3 in SA yet. There may not have been a formal competition (up and until MSSA trials) but many of the top teams have been practising against each other, they have been playing competitively and thus an idea of where teams stand has been formed.
I will not deny that the MSSA trials were short noticed and only had 6 teams in it, but the alternative was that no team would represent SA. So the general community decided to acknowledge the attempts made at organising an event where the teams available could participate.
Its your opinion that they're not the best, good for you. They (FiB) proved on the day that they were the better team, VS some of the top 5 teams, they came out on top. The fact that not all the teams were represented was a failure on your part, you choose not to participate in the community and take it on yourselves to bad mouth the teams who have given time and effort into what they love.
So here is my conclusive statement. To live up to your own delusions of grandeur, I challenge those who think they're better than the community to come out of the bat cave and challenge sG, FiB or ASF. We will welcome the challenge
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OGBuzz
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Cranky, its not about the best team. we are talking best players as a unit here, imagine, the best of ASF, FiB (minus bumslug), BVD, NSD, ARES, SS, KK, the list goes one, Germany have done that, they have the world no1 as their chopper pilot but other dudes from other clans too, the best jet pilot in Germany for instance, NOW thats smart thinking, they then practice as a team and now they are serious contenders. Its should have been best players, not best team
How would you decide on who the best players are? There is no spectator mode, stats cannot justify their selection. Therefore, the decision to put in a team was the one chosen. Given the fact we had 2 days to decide on the "SA team", the mini comp was the only justifiable solution.
OGBuzz
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if other countries can do it, why can WE not do it?
Whilst i dont know exactly what they did to choose the players, i know for FACT it was not just a clan vs clan thing, there were player trials
WE could not do it, because we had 2 days. For future organisation of the SA team, i agree that a selected team would be best, not a clan. But we are passed that. What's done is done, now the bad mouthing of the entire arrangement can stop.
OGBuzz
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I dont have a problem with the arrangement, with 2 days i guess its better than nothing, question really is, HOW did we only have two days to get our shit together? Was the BF3 community caught with their pants down?
They chose them from knowing the community.
If it was left for the team captains of the tp teams from the past im confident no SS or KK members wouldve made it into the squad. You okes are not involved with most of these teams.
The fact taht you hammer on heli and Jets means you have not played a small conquest map.
In the 10 rounds we played not ONE map had a Heli or JET .
@ tookz if you know me you would realize taht im the most modest person around. I was the captain that won rage this year and i got up and told the otehr team how unlucky they were that certain rounds didnt go their way. I top scored in both maps in the final at a 2 KPd and 3KPD that is serious bragging rights yet you wont find me bragging ANYWHERE about it.
Ive constantly done well and shrugged it off as being lucky. I never claimed skill in any of my victories . Ive won lan events raging from dota to UT to Cod and css . Yet i dont claim to be one of the best FPS players in the country . MY Bf 3 stats are better than most of the SS players and yet you dont see me pointing it out. The thing that you can take from that is that im by no means in the same skill range as the FIB ASF and SG ( BVd ) okes . And that should make you realize it.
GO play a small conquest vs FIB SG AND ASF and then come back and brag or admit to being wrong.
If it was left for the team captains of the tp teams from the past im confident no SS or KK members wouldve made it into the squad. You okes are not involved with most of these teams.
The fact taht you hammer on heli and Jets means you have not played a small conquest map.
In the 10 rounds we played not ONE map had a Heli or JET .
@ tookz if you know me you would realize taht im the most modest person around. I was the captain that won rage this year and i got up and told the otehr team how unlucky they were that certain rounds didnt go their way. I top scored in both maps in the final at a 2 KPd and 3KPD that is serious bragging rights yet you wont find me bragging ANYWHERE about it.
Ive constantly done well and shrugged it off as being lucky. I never claimed skill in any of my victories . Ive won lan events raging from dota to UT to Cod and css . Yet i dont claim to be one of the best FPS players in the country . MY Bf 3 stats are better than most of the SS players and yet you dont see me pointing it out. The thing that you can take from that is that im by no means in the same skill range as the FIB ASF and SG ( BVd ) okes . And that should make you realize it.
GO play a small conquest vs FIB SG AND ASF and then come back and brag or admit to being wrong.
OGBuzz
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Cranky, where did any1 here say SS, KK is better than the clan you mention? why are you knocking on SS, you say your modest but then you say stuff like i can bet you im better than this and that? you see that's just it, the l33t shit gets to me, it really does, why is everything taken so serious? for f#ck sakes, this is a game, not a god dam Soccer WC final (even thats taken to serious). Did you see any post saying SS > ASF/FiB/BVD, no, we never said that? Who says that, rather leave the talking for the BF and not the forums.....
man this is taken way to serious.....
to0kenZA
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Ok, fair enough dude.
Just so you know, SS was a COD clan. They only started playing BF now. So there's a lot to learn, and there's a lot of practising going on. Ja, cool, they've been playing BF for years now, but does that mean some "new blood" can't do well? I think that's another reason the competitive gaming scene in SA is so shit. People are not open to anything. They'd rather just stick to the same old meat year in and year out, never giving new teams a chance. That's why you just see the same old shit every year, which is starting to get a little shit now, tbh.
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R4C3
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Here is the problem, "we"(as per clwn) organise a tourney to state who the best is, but only post it in 1 forum and then decide it will be us few who are part of the discussion that will enter. There is something wrong here chaps....
@ Cranky you are on these forums everyday, you organised this why not let us know on myg???
Maybe there were some teams that also could have played..... And Maybe FIB would have won again, but those who wanted to play could have gotten a chance to do so.....
This will and always has been the downfall of the competitive gaming scene, this has nothing to do with the clan you play in. This has to do with it is only us that will get a chance the more teams the lower our chances.
I do agree that there are a few excellent clans out there but these clans are selfish and keep to themselves without sharing any knowledge or info about the community. I have anthrax for instance on battlelog, did not even hear a word about this.
If you cannot see the point everyone is trying to make chaps then you are blind.... All that I have seen so far is excuses on why it happened so fast not a single, yeah maybe we could have done it a bit different and advertised a bit more, and invited some battlelog peeps to hear if they can make it.
I can guarentee that this is how it will continue if you do not change your way of thinking, are you big enough to do it tho
. It is these dbl standards that really kills gaming in SA
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to0kenZA
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"The fact taht you hammer on heli and Jets means you have not played a small conquest map.
In the 10 rounds we played not ONE map had a Heli or JET . "
You don't know me dude
I fly in the jets for fun. When I'm playing clannies I'm never in the sky. Don't make assumptions, man.
Here is the problem, "we"(as per clwn) organise a tourney to state who the best is, but only post it in 1 forum and then decide it will be us few who are part of the discussion that will enter. There is something wrong here chaps....
@ Cranky you are on these forums everyday, you organised this why not let us know on myg???
Maybe there were some teams that also could have played..... And Maybe FIB would have won again, but those who wanted to play could have gotten a chance to do so.....
This will and always has been the downfall of the competitive gaming scene, this has nothing to do with the clan you play in. This has to do with it is only us that will get a chance the more teams the lower our chances.
I do agree that there are a few excellent clans out there but these clans are selfish and keep to themselves without sharing any knowledge or info about the community. I have anthrax for instance on battlelog, did not even hear a word about this.
If you cannot see the point everyone is trying to make chaps then you are blind.... All that I have seen so far is excuses on why it happened so fast not a single, yeah maybe we could have done it a bit different and advertised a bit more, and invited some battlelog peeps to hear if they can make it.
I can gaurentee that this is how it will continue if you do not change your way of thinking, are you big enough to do it tho
Race you are correct in saying that the mini comp was not the most well run event, but what you need to understand is the time frame they were given to work in. No one said it was the best run thing, teams were left out unfortunately, and you are correct in saying that it could have been done better. I did say that in future such an event will be run much better. For the moment we at least have a very good team representing SA as opposed to no one.
The DGL starts in just over 2 weeks. Everyone will be playing everyone and we can see what is what
ArchieChoke
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I almost forgot the friendlies we playe with no vehicles unless the enemy used theirs.think it was 2 clans we played against.
I posted a whole article on here only to find it missing the next morning. I can only assume that my line timed out as it showed perfectely on 4 other forums.
I sat till 4 am getting the roster done and rules and servers and formats. I was doing it mainly on SGS as the clan captains that frequent there is from over 20 BF 3 teams.
Another forum i psoted it on deleted my post and marked it as " No advertising"
So see my point. I never said SS couldnt do well . I read that some 1 said SS will beat any of those teams. that was my whole thread about SS are not better than FIB.
New blood can win .. that has been proven but its unlikely if you dont practice versus them.
Cod 4 ( the only game i can really say i know in and out and yes I know it is not BF 3 )
in 2008 - Borg Cyborgs won rage as a team that was beleived to not even qualify for rage, Was in the group of death with 3 prem teams and still made it through and had to beat the 2nd and 1st ranked team to win rage and did it without fail,
in 2010 BFB Mutards ( Bfb`s 2nd team ) made it to the final at rage afer they were ranked 11th.
It can happen but like i said only if you play proper teams.
I sat till 4 am getting the roster done and rules and servers and formats. I was doing it mainly on SGS as the clan captains that frequent there is from over 20 BF 3 teams.
Another forum i psoted it on deleted my post and marked it as " No advertising"
So see my point. I never said SS couldnt do well . I read that some 1 said SS will beat any of those teams. that was my whole thread about SS are not better than FIB.
New blood can win .. that has been proven but its unlikely if you dont practice versus them.
Cod 4 ( the only game i can really say i know in and out and yes I know it is not BF 3 )
in 2008 - Borg Cyborgs won rage as a team that was beleived to not even qualify for rage, Was in the group of death with 3 prem teams and still made it through and had to beat the 2nd and 1st ranked team to win rage and did it without fail,
in 2010 BFB Mutards ( Bfb`s 2nd team ) made it to the final at rage afer they were ranked 11th.
It can happen but like i said only if you play proper teams.
to0kenZA
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Good to see you're at least open to reasoning.
If you guys are as passionate as most other people, let's start making some kind of difference instead of fucking hating on each other with this elitism bullshit? Give everyone a fair chance, make the community a better place and fill it with healthy competition.
to0kenZA
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Dude, I don't know why we're talking about clan vs clan here. You're completely missing the point. I'll be straight with you- what are you even talking about?
All the teams are already playing clannies against each other for practise, so I don't know where that argument comes from, you saying we're not even involved in the BF3 community. Hahaha....my word dude.
R4C3
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@ Cranky, dude you are missing the point this is not about SS, we enjoy our gaming whether we play comps or not Most of us are very OLD wiith lots of kids and nagging Wives, we have fun, the point was to just make people aware that the attitudes needs to change, not whether Cranky is a better player than R4C3, but that Cranky will invite R4C3 next time if it happens and let him decide whether he wants to play or not, Do you at least understand what I am trying to say?