Mass Effect 3 fans want a new game ending

qornea said:
We agree that demanding the ending you want is retarded.

However, you haven't finished the game. So you don't know exactly -why- the demand for one is so great. It's relevant, and definitely not beyond the point.

For me at least, like I said, it's not about a good or bad ending. You'll see. I'm out of this discussion now.
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Once I've finished it we will take up this discussion again. :p
 
Or we were all just part of the biggest troll since duke nukem forever , with them promising your choices matter and in the fuck all mattered
 
Tank said:
Or we were all just part of the biggest troll since duke nukem forever , with them promising your choices matter and in the fuck all mattered
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Welcome to the universe, choice is an illusion and nothing you or I or anyone on this planet does is of more consequence than a small fart to the rest of the cosmos. There is no meaning, there is no order, there is nothing it is all random. There is just 7 billion specks of dust fumbling around in the dark desperate to find some illusion meaning to their lives less they be crushed beneath the unyielding irrelevance of their existence.

It isn't that there is no meaning in the Universe, it's that there is meaning, but it is so far above and beyond human understanding that we can never attain meaningful existence...
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With the caveat of "I've not finished the game yet", I have to say I'm absolutely loving this game so far. And you know what? I'm not worried about the end all that much.

People who've finished the game already, and experienced a shitty ending have for the most part <20hours played I imagine - one stated he finished in around 12 hours. And given what has been said by Bioware about how the game is going to end, and how you *need* to have gathered a lot of resources before the final mission to obtain the "perfect ending", I can put money on not one of the people complaining about the bad ending having done just that. In the case of the example I mentioned, it's understandable, he's a game reviewer and needs to clock the game so he can actually review it. But when you play the game in a way that means you're going to have a bad ending, and are told as much by the people who wrote the damn thing, what can you expect?

So yeah, maybe I'm going to be bitterly disappointed when I finished the game, we'll see. But for damn sure I'm not going to guarantee that I have a bad ending by speed-running the game, I'm going to take the time to play and enjoy the game, and I'm going to do all the little side quests I can find, the same as I was going to do anyway. And then I'll see what the ending is like.

Based on what I'm seeing, I have a fair suspicion that your <20hrs bitterly disappointing end to the game is going to be a little different from my 40+hrs ending, just saying.

Oh, and another thing? To the people who're saying "Oh woe is me, how can they end the story like this?!?!" and the rest of the wailing and gnashing of teeth - it's been stated fairly clearly by Bioware that this isn't the end of the ME series, it's just the end of the Shepard arc of that series. So how about toning down the whinging & bitching about how much the end of the game sucks and invalidates EVERYTHING that's gone before it until we see how the story is meant to progress post ME3? Cry and wail when you know you have a real reason to, not just because you got the ME3 equivalent of "everyone dies on my suicide mission to the collector base because I rushed through the game to finish it"

Just a suggestion.
 
I haven't finished the game yet, but from the extent of the backlash, it sounds like this backlash is well deserved. I'll wait and see when I get there, but from the snippets I've heard, it's just about as bad as the Deus Ex HR ending(s).

Also, I agree with something MOnk recently said. There's this whole lynch-mob 'movement' going on against people who make complaints about games on these forums, and it's getting out of hand. Get a grip on yourselves, for fucks sake. It's getting pathetic. Last time I checked the poll on the Bioware forums, 97% of people were dissatisfied with the endings. That's a major fucking problem for Bioware/EA.

The average gamer (me included) probably spends close to or over 10k a year on gaming (my Steam purchases alone for last year ran close to 6K). They are well entitled to making complaints, and yes, making demands as well. EA/Bioware does not have to heed the demands, but that does not mean the gamers have any less right to voice their opinions and needs. If this is the reaction to an iconic series' ending, EA/Bioware would do fucking well to actually heed those demands.

I for one, am now very worried about getting to the ending, because I would hate for it to be anti-climatic trash, seeing as the rest of the game is amazing. If I am disappointed, I'll join my voice to those demanding a new ending, be it introduced through a patch or paid DLC.

I vote me and MOnk start our own lynch-mob movement on these forums, the 'Complainers About People Who Complain About Complainers' movement. I think it will do well.
 
BacchusZA said:
Oh, and another thing? To the people who're saying "Oh woe is me, how can they end the story like this?!?!" and the rest of the wailing and gnashing of teeth - it's been stated fairly clearly by Bioware that this isn't the end of the ME series, it's just the end of the Shepard arc of that series. So how about toning down the whinging & bitching about how much the end of the game sucks and invalidates EVERYTHING that's gone before it until we see how the story is meant to progress post ME3? Cry and wail when you know you have a real reason to, not just because you got the ME3 equivalent of "everyone dies on my suicide mission to the collector base because I rushed through the game to finish it"
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You haven't really been listening to the complaints, have you? The main issue seems to be that all the endings are just about the same thing with minor alterations, and that your choices throughout the game doesn't really influence the ending at all.
 
Graal said:
I haven't finished the game yet, but from the extent of the backlash, it sounds like this backlash is well deserved. I'll wait and see when I get there, but from the snippets I've heard, it's just about as bad as the Deus Ex HR ending(s).

Also, I agree with something MOnk recently said. There's this whole lynch-mob 'movement' going on against people who make complaints about games on these forums, and it's getting out of hand. Get a grip on yourselves, for fucks sake. It's getting pathetic. Last time I checked the poll on the Bioware forums, 97% of people were dissatisfied with the endings. That's a major fucking problem for Bioware/EA.
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97% of the people who visited the site and/or pitched in on the poll. Actually gaming community... less that 50% i recon.

I'll hold off further comment until I've experienced the ending for myself before weighing in further.
 
I've finished the game, from a full Level 30 paragon import. Game was 9.5/10 up to the last 5 minutes of the game. Then I felt cheated. I won't go so far to tell them what the ending should be, but damn, at least keep the story consistent. ME2's endings were great... they should have stuck to that formula. That's all I'm gonna say here... the rest will have to go in a tread that contains spoilers.
 
Graal said:
You haven't really been listening to the complaints, have you? The main issue seems to be that all the endings are just about the same thing with minor alterations, and that your choices throughout the game doesn't really influence the ending at all.
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Last comment;

As long as the endings doesn't go against the overall cannon of the universe its perfectly fine with that. Live I've said before some things are unavoidable and if it fits into the overall plot of Mass Effect, then I would rather have that than some BS ending where choices dictate changes that isn't believable. Ewoks beating the Empire kind of thing.
 
Graal said:
You haven't really been listening to the complaints, have you? The main issue seems to be that all the endings are just about the same thing with minor alterations, and that your choices throughout the game doesn't really influence the ending at all.
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Yep, I've listened to the complaints. I've also made allowance for the fact that I have yet to finish the game.

I am, however, also taking cognizance of the fact that Bioware have stated you need a substantial amount of war resources to get the "perfect ending" (their words), in the multiple thousands range, also as I said in that post. And I'm again going to say that you have not had enough time to accumulate enough resources for that ending if you've finished the game so quickly.
To give you an idea, I'm on about 20 hours played, just started the second "chapter" I guess you could call it, after Tuchanka - my apologies if that's a spoiler for anyone - and I have around 1600 war resources. Which is way, way short of the figure that Bioware have stated you need for the "perfect ending".

Again, I've not finished the game, I don't know how big a difference the war resources make, and it could well be that I eat my words and also start throwing my toys out of the cot when I finish the game. But it's been stated repeatedly that they're important, and if your ending sucked because you didn't have them - and I know my friend Jim who finished in 12 hours didn't - then I'm again going to suggest you wait & see what's planned for the future, and maybe go back and finish the game after you've invested a little more time, done more of the side quests, and gathered more of the resources that you're told, by Bioware, that you need to not have a shit ending.

And gathering the resources might seem like a minor thing in terms of your gameplay, but in the context of a galaxy wide war? Logistics wins wars, having the right people, in the right place, at the right time, with the right equipment. So perhaps it's a little more important than people are willing to credit.
 
Graal said:
You haven't really been listening to the complaints, have you? The main issue seems to be that all the endings are just about the same thing with minor alterations, and that your choices throughout the game doesn't really influence the ending at all.
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That Exactly.
Sadly, I would say that the Deus Ex HR endings were better. I think I might be done with Bioware games.
 
BacchusZA said:
Yep, I've listened to the complaints. I've also made allowance for the fact that I have yet to finish the game.

I am, however, also taking cognizance of the fact that Bioware have stated you need a substantial amount of war resources to get the "perfect ending" (their words), in the multiple thousands range, also as I said in that post. And I'm again going to say that you have not had enough time to accumulate enough resources for that ending if you've finished the game so quickly.
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Whole game took me about 32 hours and I completed all side missions (I think). Didn't do a lot of multiplayer to see the effects of it on the ending, but based on the "type" of ending, I can't see how that is going to have an effect. I think the only influence it might have is how difficult it is going to get in the final battles (which was pretty hectic). Like I said, I felt cheated.
 
Remember that folks in the us had the game for three days before us so it is conceiveable that they managed the so called "perfect ending" and entirely possible it still sucked
 
OmegaFenix said:
97% of the people who visited the site and/or pitched in on the poll. Actually gaming community... less that 50% i recon.
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But even for the limited community on the Bioware forums, 97% is huge. It's hardly negligible when the majority of your forum users vote that they dislike the forum. It should be a fairly good indication of how the entire fan demographic would experience it.

Had it been something closer to, say, 80%, it might have been negligible.
 
Graal said:
But even for the limited community on the Bioware forums, 97% is huge. It's hardly negligible when the majority of your forum users vote that they dislike the forum. It should be a fairly good indication of how the entire fan demographic would experience it.

Had it been something closer to, say, 80%, it might have been negligible.
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I can see it being that bad, I just can't. So like I said as it stands now I say they are all full of crap. Once I've finished the game I will reconsider and voice my findings. Until then I really dont want to comment any further.
 
After experiencing the endings - I must agree that I also feel cheated. You spend all this time investing in relationships and that is all just glanced over at the end. Last decision made, ending, credits.......

For example, if Harry Potter had finished like this - fans would have also been unhappy about it.
 
Jared said:
After experiencing the endings - I must agree that I also feel cheated. You spend all this time investing in relationships and that is all just glanced over at the end. Last decision made, ending, credits.......

For example, if Harry Potter had finished like this - fans would have also been unhappy about it.
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Harry Potter should have ended with him dying. And it almost did, then she decided to sugar coat it and push out another happy ending. I felt cheated and the end of HP.
 
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