AMD touts Radeon R9 295X2 as the world's fastest graphics card

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Review: AMD Radeon R9 295X2 8 GB

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So I have been waiting for this card for some time now and can I just say that AMD did not disappoint.
It is incredibly beautiful and I have to say I want one badly..Although I don't think I'll be able to afford one of these to be honest :( That said it is roughly half the price of Nvidia's upcoming Titan Z.

Enjoy the Review

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Thermal Camera & Fan Noise Recording
In this section, we bring to you an audio-visual representation of the card's thermals and noise output. The video below is a recording of the card in both idle and load, while independent instruments log audio, thermal-imaging, optical video and numeric sensor data in real time. To make this happen, we set up a new rig with a passively-cooled Core "Haswell" processor, ASUS TUF Sabertooth motherboard with Thermal Armor (so heat from the motherboard doesn't obscure our thermal imaging). Our instruments include a FLIR-made thermal camera with 320x240 pixels resolution, a normal optical camera, a sensitive shotgun microphone, and GPU-Z, to log the GPU's sensor data.

The thermal camera also serves as a non-contact thermometer. Its crosshairs are trained on the graphics card, and will dynamically follow where the highest temperature is. The audio portion of the video is only to illustrate the tonal quality and the relative change from idle to load, not the absolute volume. It's to give you an idea of how the card revs its fans up in reaction to increasing temperatures.



Around timecode 0:15 we start putting load on the card, and you can immediately hear its coil whine (the chirping sound). It comes from the card's voltage regulation circuitry and is caused by coils vibrating under stress of the power draw. Depending on the game, and frame rate, this noise is more or less audible, it also changes in frequency. In idle, there is absolutely no coil noise.

I placed the radiator on top of the card, so that both have similar distance from the microphone - this does not affect temperatures significantly, in your system, you should of course install the card the proper way.

Even in idle, you can clearly make out the fan noise, which quickly increases once load is applied to the card. Unfortunately fan speed can not be measured in any software. This could either be a driver bug or hardware limitation. Both the fan on the card's heatsink and the fan on the radiator are controlled by the GPU, so there should be a way to monitor both of them. It is also not possible to control the fan speed at all, which means there is no way to customize the acoustic experience.

Toward the end of the test, you see the voltage regulator circuitry glowing bright white on the thermal image - they peak at 103°C temperature, which is quite hot. A look at the PCB photos reveals that the hot components are not on the back, but on the front - their heat moves through the PCB to the other side of the card. Those components are engineered to withstand 120°C temperatures just fine, but it still looks like AMD didn't think their thermal solution through all the way.

What's interesting to see as well, is how the card's massive power draw heats up the two power cables and their plugs, the radiator on top of the card is also showing that it gets quite warm - around 60°C.

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Conclusion:
AMD's Radeon R9 295X2 is an impressive piece of engineering. They managed the seemingly impossible: cram two fully unlocked, fully clocked Hawaii GPUs onto a single graphics card. AMD's ace up their sleeve is the watercooling solution from Asetek, which, despite being relatively compact with just a 1x 120 mm radiator, can handle the heat output of both GPUs quite well.

In terms of performance we see truly impressive 4K resolution numbers from the R9 295X2, which are essentially twice those of a single R9 290X card. With these results, R9 295X2 is the fastest single card solution available today, and a great choice for this resolution, as well as 5760x1080 EyeFinity. Thanks to the low temperatures, provided by watercooling, the card does not throttle during normal games, which means you have its full potential available at all times. Unlike a single GPU card, being based on two graphics processors, the R9 295X2 needs good drivers to show proper performance improvements in games. Thanks to updated AMD driver support we see better CrossFire scaling across our test suite than ever before, the only game which does not scale properly is Diablo 3: Reaper of Souls. This marks a significant improvement over the last time when we looked at CrossFire (HD 7990), where six out of 18 games did not scale as expected. It still shows that you may be left with single GPU (R9 290X) performance, when a new title comes out for which CrossFire support is not available immediately. Also at lower resolutions, 2560x1600 and below, scaling is slim in general, and I would not recommend the R9 295X2 or any other multi-GPU solution for these setups. A powerful single GPU card like NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 780 Ti, or Titan will definitely do better at 2560x1600 and be more cost efficient at the same time.

In order to keep their card at sane temperature levels, AMD has opted for a watercooling solution by Asetek, who are one of the leaders in this field of technology. The Asetek watercooling works flawless, comes prefilled, is self-contained and maintenance free. You just install the card, find a spot for the radiator and power it up. The first minutes you'll hear some noise due to air bubbles circulating in the loop, but this sound goes away quickly and the two pumps (one for each GPU), are almost inaudible. Nevertheless, watercooling always introduces more complexity into a system, which could be troublesome especially in smaller cases. At full load, the watercooling radiator gets quite warm, you won't burn yourself, but it will feel hot to the touch. The 500W+ heat output will definitely heat up your room, and there is no way around that, the heat just has to go somewhere. While many might say that the 120 mm radiator is too small, it does a fine job and keeps the card at good temperatures, but does so with a bit much noise. Temperatures under load are around 60°C, so in my opinion, AMD could have run the fans slower, to reduce fan noise.

A second fan is installed on the graphics card itself and its job is to cool voltage regulation circuitry and memory chips. This fan is working extra hard and tends to be noisy. I'm also wondering if this part of the thermal solution is designed properly. Under full load, our new thermal imaging camera reveals that the back side of the card reaches over 100°C, showing heat travelling through the card from the VRM circuitry on the front, which means these components are even hotter. Taking a closer look, it seems that the heatsink fins under that fan are oriented the wrong way, they direct air to the sides, to the walls of the waterblocks, instead of up and out of the card. Maybe AMD should have used a single, full-cover block that cools all components, to avoid these troubles.

Another surprise is that the card still has some coil noise (listen for the chirping noises in our thermal imaging video), while less pronounced than on the HD 7990, it is still there. After all the HD 7990 drama, I expected AMD to make 100% sure that it wouldn't happen again. Depending on the situation (FPS, game, load) the noise changes in volume and frequency, so it's very noticeable and distracting at times. In general I find the acoustic footprint of the card higher than what would be necessary, especially in idle. Under load the card runs at noise levels comparable to other high-end cards (that are slower of course), but I feel that AMD could have optimized things a bit better. With current drivers, the card has absolutely no fan control or fan speed monitoring, which means you can't just adjust things on your own.

AMD is asking $1500 for the R9 295X2 which is simply too much. Right now, the R9 290X retails around $570, so I don't see a reason why AMD needs to charge $1500, other than "because we can", "because NVIDIA charges more". In my opinion a more reasonable price for the card would be sub-$1000, probably around $900. It's not the second coming of Christ, still has some technical difficulties, but its performance at 4K is simply impressive. Given NVIDIA's announced $3000 pricing for the Titan-Z, which I doubt will be much, if any, faster than the R9 295X2, the R9 295X2 suddenly looks affordable. But if I were to build a 4K gaming system I'd just use good old CrossFire and SLI to build up my rig using R9 290X or GTX 780 Ti at much better pricing, and end up with the 4K monitor for almost free. Personally I'm not so convinced that 4K is a must anyway, in most games I see very little difference between 2560x1600 w/ AA and 4K w/o AA, so little that I wonder if the performance hit is really worth it.

http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/reviews/AMD/R9_295_X2/2.html
 
Right, pre order placed, anybody care to donate the funds? :)
Looking lovely, I do wonder how the Nvidia team will feel with their Titan Z coming out soon.
 
Yeah makes sense seeing as it has 4GB VRAM and a higher memory bus to push said memory.

Yeah thing is though, 4K is the next best thing so in all honesty the 295X is the better card.
Costs about the same as 2x 780ti's. Uses a lot less power, produces less heat, is much quieter and takes up much less space.
 
Yeah thing is though, 4K is the next best thing so in all honesty the 295X is the better card.
Costs about the same as 2x 780ti's. Uses a lot less power, produces less heat, is much quieter and takes up much less space.

I have the feeling I'll be on 1080p for quite some time still. I'm a sucker for high FPS so firstly I'd need multiple GPUs and need to buy the new screen. The cash monies makes me cry inside.
 
I have the feeling I'll be on 1080p for quite some time still. I'm a sucker for high FPS so firstly I'd need multiple GPUs and need to buy the new screen. The cash monies makes me cry inside.

I am also back down to 1080P for the moment, but I am running at 120Hz, for now that trumps higher res gaming for me.
 
Maybe I'm too spoilt with my 1440p monitor, but there's no way in hell I'd go back to 1080p - even if it is with 120Hz. I'm still waiting for a 1440p monitor that also does 120Hz. As soon as that becomes a viable option, I'm in it to win it. I honestly don't see the need for a 4k PC monitor. In my opinion, 4K is something that belongs in the living room on a large 65"+ screen so that you can enjoy your movies.

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Just saw that at this years CES, Asus showcased a 1440p 27" 120Hz LCD panel. THAT, gentlemen, is what you want.
 
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Maybe I'm too spoilt with my 1440p monitor, but there's no way in hell I'd go back to 1080p - even if it is with 120Hz. I'm still waiting for a 1440p monitor that also does 120Hz. As soon as that becomes a viable option, I'm in it to win it. I honestly don't see the need for a 4k PC monitor. In my opinion, 4K is something that belongs in the living room on a large 65"+ screen so that you can enjoy your movies.

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Just saw that at this years CES, Asus showcased a 1440p 27" 120Hz LCD panel. THAT, gentlemen, is what you want.

I've been fortunate enough to spend time playing on a 4k monitor and let me tell you something mate, its INCREDIBLE!! Its so so so much better than 1080P/1440P/1600P, its in a completely different league. So its def the future, just a pity it costs an absolute fortune.
 
I've been fortunate enough to spend time playing on a 4k monitor and let me tell you something mate, its INCREDIBLE!! Its so so so much better than 1080P/1440P/1600P, its in a completely different league. So its def the future, just a pity it costs an absolute fortune.

Win! Lucky dog being able to play on a nice toy like that :) What do you think about the reviewer's comment that he could not see the difference between 1440p with some AA and 4k with no AA?

To me, comparing 1080p with 1440p, I actually prefer 1440p with no AA as opposed to 1080p with AA.

Look, make no mistake - I am a monitor junky of note. If you think I'm crazy with my money on graphics cards, then you'll be shocked to hear what I've spent on monitors. But, I always do a boat load of homework first.

I think a 4k monitor would be fantastic to play on, but then you'd need something stupid like an AMD 295X. The last thing I want to do is basically render my brand new 780ti useless because of the resolution on my monitor.

If you ever come across a 30" 1440p monitor capable of 120Hz - you need to hook me up ASAP! :)
 
Are you comparing a stock standard 780ti against a massively modified R290x? There are lots of 780ti cards out there that absolutely kill the R290x.

No matter how you slice it mate, the 780ti's are faster and better engineered than the R290X cards from AMD. That's how it is.
 
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I've been fortunate enough to spend time playing on a 4k monitor and let me tell you something mate, its INCREDIBLE!! Its so so so much better than 1080P/1440P/1600P, its in a completely different league. So its def the future, just a pity it costs an absolute fortune.

It's still 16:9, though. Most games won't scale POV very well, it'll just look sharper. 21:9 is a better offering for gamers, IMO. It offers similar benefits to Eyefinity/Surround, but doesn't break compatibility too badly for most games.
 
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