Cape teen beheaded in ‘satanic ritual’

[Glordit]

LaVeyan Satanism or LaVeyanism also known as Satanism for short.
Theistic Satanism the worship of Satan as a Deity.

Please can we get some proper editorial skills on some of these articles please? Mr. Zodidi Dano?

Also, I think this would fall in the same area as corrective rape and all the other "Township Urban Myths" that we see floating out of those areas in the recent years.

Uneducated people + Superstition = Misinformed skeptics.

 

[Weasley]

LaVeyan Satanism or LaVeyanism also known as Satanism for short.
Theistic Satanism the worship of Satan as a Deity.

what is the difference?

 

[KofDelight]

My friends wife is a teacher at the school of that boy that beheaded that other boy.
It's quite disturbing and sick that he did that,apparently the teacher of that student complained to the principal about the boys violent and aggressive behavior in class prior to this incident.

 

[Glordit]

what is the difference?

LaVeyan Satanism has it's believes in and 'eye for an eye' morality. It's more of a philosophical movement than a occult religion. I believe it is so overlooked and misconceived that people think it to be evil when in it's essence it is not.

Satanists do not believe in the supernatural, in neither God nor the Devil. To the Satanist, he is his own God. Satan is a symbol of Man living as his prideful, carnal nature dictates. The reality behind Satan is simply the dark evolutionary force of entropy that permeates all of nature and provides the drive for survival and propagation inherent in all living things. Satan is not a conscious entity to be worshiped, rather a reservoir of power inside each human to be tapped at will. Thus any concept of sacrifice is rejected as a Christian aberration—in Satanism there’s no deity to which one can sacrifice

 

[Cicero]

LaVeyan Satanism has it's believes in and 'eye for an eye' morality. It's more of a philosophical movement than a occult religion. I believe it is so overlooked and misconceived that people think it to be evil when in it's essence it is not.

How does it work though? Who carries out the 'eye for an eye' revenge?

 

[reedOsama]

link

I thought this was some Daily Voice exaggerated junk... can't believe it's true :wtf:

 

[Glordit]

How does it work though? Who carries out the 'eye for an eye' revenge?

Honestly would not know, would have to do more research on the topic to go into more detail.

 

[Tsar]

How does it work though? Who carries out the 'eye for an eye' revenge?

You would do it yourself. Its about self empowerment.

 

[TBlaar]

Satanism is being yourself, and living out what feels natural as a human being. In college, we did a morality test, and afterwards the teacher disclosed that this was actually the test for morality for entrance to the LaVeyan Church of Satan. Everyone in class was pretty much living a "satanic" life according to that.

Satan worship on the other hand, is just stupid...

 

[Neo]

It's pretty easy to misrepresent something if you only ever hear one side of the story

We're not talking about "apartheid" here. We're talking about the occult. There IS only one side to it, and it's the side that causes crap like this in the article posted. But yeah, you take God out of classrooms and households, this is what you'll get. I'm surprised we're not hearing about this kind of stuff more often.

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Satanism is being yourself, and living out what feels natural as a human being. In college, we did a morality test, and afterwards the teacher disclosed that this was actually the test for morality for entrance to the LaVeyan Church of Satan. Everyone in class was pretty much living a "satanic" life according to that.

Satan worship on the other hand, is just stupid...

Dude, that is an interesting comment and it brings me to a question that I've wondered about: I know that I'm a born-again, saved child of God (hallelujah). But society seems to be moving away from religion at a rapid pace. Now, in my view, God doesn't have a "grey" area. So you're either with Him, or against Him. Would I then be correct to view non-believers in Christ as satanists?

I know that there are some people on the fence with religion and there are some that WANT to believe. It's our responsibility as Christians to make them see God's light in us, in the way we live to draw them nearer to Him. But, there are also those that know the Gospel, and who know what God is about but choose to deny Him outright. Can I view them as satanists?

(I could ramble on about how it's so clever of satan to make people believe that they're only living a "natural" life because it "feels normal and good" because their doctrine preaches that people are inherently good, when I as a Christian know full well that people are inherently evil, but that's WAY outside of the scope of this forum)

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Poor satanism... getting the blame for some kid's sick fantasy...

Satanism does not require sacrifice of humans or animals, so why is satanism to blame? In fact, the Bible has actual references to people sacrificing lambs and their first born sons to God, so why not blame this on Christianity?

Errr...in which "bible" did you read that? There were no human sacrifices to God. There was a TEST that God put Abraham through to test his loyalty, but the sacrifice never occurred. Seriously, you will NEVER be able to defend something as rotten and vile as satanism. Stop trying.

 

[Balduran]

Derailed thread. Brought to you by Jesus Christ.

 

[Clive Woofer]

We're not talking about "apartheid" here. We're talking about the occult. There IS only one side to it, and it's the side that causes crap like this in the article posted. But yeah, you take God out of classrooms and households, this is what you'll get. I'm surprised we're not hearing about this kind of stuff more often.

Oh puh-leaze. Every time I hear someone make this kind of comment I can't help but roll my eyes and imagine the person making said comment is still stuck in the 1950s. Removing a fictional being from classrooms has nothing to do with the apparent 'degradation' of society.

But yes, by all means, let us who live in a multicultural society force people of different beliefs to experience a specific brand of religious dogma in the classroom, because apparently that is going to fix all the problems in our society.

You're more than welcome to your beliefs, in your own home. Don't try to force it on anyone else and certainly don't tell me that putting religion back in schools will be a good thing. Keep that harmful nonsense out of schools, please. I'd like my children to grow up without fearing boogeymen who don't exist.

 

[Glordit]

We're not talking about "apartheid" here. We're talking about the occult. There IS only one side to it, and it's the side that causes crap like this in the article posted. But yeah, you take God out of classrooms and households, this is what you'll get. I'm surprised we're not hearing about this kind of stuff more often.

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Dude, that is an interesting comment and it brings me to a question that I've wondered about: I know that I'm a born-again, saved child of God (hallelujah). But society seems to be moving away from religion at a rapid pace. Now, in my view, God doesn't have a "grey" area. So you're either with Him, or against Him. Would I then be correct to view non-believers in Christ as satanists?

I know that there are some people on the fence with religion and there are some that WANT to believe. It's our responsibility as Christians to make them see God's light in us, in the way we live to draw them nearer to Him. But, there are also those that know the Gospel, and who know what God is about but choose to deny Him outright. Can I view them as satanists?

(I could ramble on about how it's so clever of satan to make people believe that they're only living a "natural" life because it "feels normal and good" because their doctrine preaches that people are inherently good, when I as a Christian know full well that people are inherently evil, but that's WAY outside of the scope of this forum)

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Errr...in which "bible" did you read that? There were no human sacrifices to God. There was a TEST that God put Abraham through to test his loyalty, but the sacrifice never occurred. Seriously, you will NEVER be able to defend something as rotten and vile as satanism. Stop trying.

Religion (no matter who you worship, God, Jesus, Alah, Jah, Haile Selassie, Seth, Lamp, Mary, Joseph...) and it's practice are your own choice, it can't be chosen for you.

 

[Hagan]

Derailed thread. Brought to you by Jesus Christ.

Not so. I believe it's expanding/broading its horizons. A topic of this nature is bound to have religious speak at some point. So, derailment may not necessarily be the case.

 

[B1nary]

I'm thinking this is more of a lets shift the blame for our own social moral decay, Its not the parents fault or anyone else that actually had contact with this person, or the world we live in oh no lets blame satanism and 50 years from now when that ones worn thin we can blame something else like scientology or the flying spaghetti monster.

Not that im advocating satanism, that in itself is a whole other story.

@Glordit, Im surprised your one of the first people I have ever seen online that actually got that correct

LaVeyan Satanism or LaVeyanism also known as Satanism for short.
Theistic Satanism the worship of Satan as a Deity.

 

[TBlaar]

We're not talking about "apartheid" here. We're talking about the occult. There IS only one side to it, and it's the side that causes crap like this in the article posted. But yeah, you take God out of classrooms and households, this is what you'll get. I'm surprised we're not hearing about this kind of stuff more often.

Aah see, right there you missed the entire plot. Occult is something different totally. Christians seem to call everything "not-christian" Satanism, in fact, you did the same in your rant below:

Dude, that is an interesting comment and it brings me to a question that I've wondered about: I know that I'm a born-again, saved child of God (hallelujah). But society seems to be moving away from religion at a rapid pace. Now, in my view, God doesn't have a "grey" area. So you're either with Him, or against Him. Would I then be correct to view non-believers in Christ as satanists?

LLOOLLLL... I could never understand this... If you're not a Christian, you're going to hell. If you're not a Muslim, you're going to hell. You are all fucked!!!!!

I know that there are some people on the fence with religion and there are some that WANT to believe. It's our responsibility as Christians to make them see God's light in us, in the way we live to draw them nearer to Him. But, there are also those that know the Gospel, and who know what God is about but choose to deny Him outright. Can I view them as satanists?

(I could ramble on about how it's so clever of satan to make people believe that they're only living a "natural" life because it "feels normal and good" because their doctrine preaches that people are inherently good, when I as a Christian know full well that people are inherently evil, but that's WAY outside of the scope of this forum)

Errr...in which "bible" did you read that? There were no human sacrifices to God. There was a TEST that God put Abraham through to test his loyalty, but the sacrifice never occurred. Seriously, you will NEVER be able to defend something as rotten and vile as satanism. Stop trying.

You use Satan and refer to the dark lord (no, not Voldemort). The one in hell. The Devil. If you read the bit about Satanism and Devil worship, you may have understood this entire thread better.

I have respect for people who are Christians, and Buddhists, and Muslim and every other belief. I FUCKING HATE the way that one religion will always say that the other is wrong, hence I cannot agree with any religion. According to all religions together, there is one baseline idea: Be nice, and be treated well in the afterlife. If it's up to that and I do not give it a name, then I am not wrong, am I?

PS: There were people offered and burned on altars, by the command of God, all over the old testament. Google this, I just did, there are at least 3 that I found in 2 minutes.

(/rant)

 

[Lyt]

I have respect for people who are Christians, and Buddhists, and Muslim and every other belief. I FUCKING HATE the way that one religion will always say that the other is wrong, hence I cannot agree with any religion. According to all religions together, there is one baseline idea: Be nice, and be treated well in the afterlife. If it's up to that and I do not give it a name, then I am not wrong, am I?

The thing is, Christianity has been misinterpreted and lied about for thousands of years, both by insiders and outsiders. 90% of Christianity is false (yeah I made that up, but we are allowed to make up statistics nowadays). Religion is what cause atheism in the first place.

This explains it all.

PS: There were people offered and burned on altars, by the command of God, all over the old testament. Google this, I just did, there are at least 3 that I found in 2 minutes.

God NEVER demanded human sacrifices to be made to him, ever, he forbade it. I honestly don't know where you found those, can you give us a link perhaps? And don't link me a evilbible.com article, I will laugh at you.

 

[Hagan]

The thing is, Christianity has been misinterpreted and lied about for thousands of years, both by insiders and outsiders. 90% of Christianity is false (yeah I made that up, but we are allowed to make up statistics nowadays).

So, 90% of the Bible is a lie -- according to your knowledge?
What proof do you have to verify the validity of this statement?

 

[Lyt]

So, 90% of the Bible is a lie -- according to your knowledge?
What proof do you have to verify the validity of this statement?

Christianity is a religion, not a book. Just looking at the different denominations and their perversions should be enough proof. Don't twist my words.

 

[Clive Woofer]

So, 90% of the Bible is a lie -- according to your knowledge?
What proof do you have to verify the validity of this statement?

I would actually flip that around and ask what proof does anyone have that what is written in the Bible, or what is believed by christians, is true? There is very little factual evidence to prove any of the events in the biblical narrative. Here and there certain names and events seen in the Bible correspond with historical data, but the only thing that proves is that those people/places/events existed or happened, it doesn't actually prove that they formed part of the biblical narrative.

I think it's a bit unfair to expect someone to 'prove' that large parts of the Bible isn't true when there's no evidence to support that any of what forms part of the biblical narrative is true. I know I've gone way off tangent, but I think in order to prove that any of what is written in the Bible is false, you would first have to prove that any of what is written in it is true.