Gay romances confirmed for Mass Effect 3
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Nimatek
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Then why not just accept the fact that these games are providing the option of the content and instead say something like : well I don't like the content but luckily I don't have to see it so no biggie.
Instead you have just fueled the issue by not seeing that simple fact. You crusade against the content, fine. But accept that there are others who will crusade for it instead.
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Back on topic, I have enjoyed both ME and ME2 and have never managed to "bond" with any of the characters, I think I need to try again to actually see what all the hype is about
Instead you have just fueled the issue by not seeing that simple fact. You crusade against the content, fine. But accept that there are others who will crusade for it instead.
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Back on topic, I have enjoyed both ME and ME2 and have never managed to "bond" with any of the characters, I think I need to try again to actually see what all the hype is about
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Achtung!Baby
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Whoah, I did not mean it offensively. I guess its just, since Im not gay, or rather lesbian, for myself it would seem a bit abnormal. But I get what you're saying. Im not saying being gay or lesbian is wrong, but you have to give society a chance, this is new or unchartered territory for many of us. Especially growing up and being taught that it is a sin or whatever, people may just take a while to get used to it. For many this is a bit abnormal, but that's not to say that they believe it is wrong. And since the majority in any society are considered normal (in any situation, not just sexuality), then its easy to understand why they see the few who are different as abnormal dont you think? Sorry man, no disrespect.
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James
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Grievous
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I bit late to this conversation but this made me laugh.
Lycanthrope
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Incorrect. In this case "wrong views" are harmful, offensive and inflammatory. ZA has a bit of a problem with corrective rape, violence against gays and all of it stems from a "wrong view" based entirely in ignorance, intolerance and a lack of compassion or even a desire to understand what other individuals go through.
There is no place for unfair discrimination in the world and yet it always finds a place in people who refuse to treat others or even their lifestyles as they wish theirs to be treated.
Syco and others might be entitled to their views, yes, but so too am I entitled to try and show them a perspective they might not have considered before. If by talking to one person like him I can get him to treat one other individual with the same courtesy as he wishes to be treated then I'd be happy.
I'll freely admit that I respect syco for being willing to at least discuss his feelings about the matter instead of just flamebaiting with self-righteous judgement--it takes a good person to be willing to listen and try to understand. However, syco needs to respect the fact that in life there is no black-and-white and that nothing is ever as clear-cut as many of us would like to believe it is.
We all have one life, one opportunity to find happiness and to die having led a good and happy life. I'm sure as Hell not going to pussyfoot around trying to live in any other way than one in which I'm true to myself.
The fact of the matter is that I chose to be gay the same day you chose to be straight. That in itself should be enough explanation where sexuality stems from.
shadowfox
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But - right and wrong are subjective. This is the context in which I made that statement. If, for instance, my religion (I'm atheist, so it's not an issue - I'm using this as an example) says that being gay is wrong - then you would be forcing your views on me, because from your point of view it's not wrong. Yes, maybe that religion is obtuse, wrong, silly, irrelevant in this day and age, but I would still have my right to it.
And I wasn't accusing you, necessarily, of forcing your view on anyone - I was commenting on the tone of this thread.
That's all I have to say on the matter, really - like I said, I don't want to get involved in this debate (except I somehow managed it already) - like religious discussions it's likely to turn into a damn quagmire - this thread being a case in point.
Grievous
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Yeah I don't see what the problem is, when so its always been your own choice. If you don't want to have a gay relationship, you don't have to. Aren't Homosexual entitle to have a same sex relationship in a game and not be forced to have a straight one? Its a Role Playing Game. They have the same rights as a straight person you know? And thus should be entitled to play what ever role they want in the story. Hate to burst your bubble, but by saying they aren't allowed to do things the way they want to and only your way does make you a bigot, no matter how many times you say you have gay friends.
Lycanthrope
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Right and wrong are subjective, yes. So is life. That's my point--there is no black and white. What's "right" to you is "wrong" to me and vice-versa. Ergo, the path of least harm is the lesser "evil" if you will.
Thanks, although I'm quite renowned for being an opinionated and stubborn asshat at times
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powderbucket
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This thread made me laugh.
Ahem, so being rather trained on the subject of gayness, it's actually a good thing for society that producers and developers are revealing the more "real" aspects of human relations. Being gay isn't exactly very common but in the case of Mass Effect 3 I'm sure that being stuck in a space ship with a limited amount of people/creatures could make people question their sexuality when the hormones get flowing. It happens, for goodness sake.
Anyway, I'm not going to stand around here saying that it's great and that all games need to have such things because at the end of the day I believe that if queer people, such as myself, run around proudly proclaiming their queerness then straight people can do it too. What I'm trying to say is that it really isn't a big deal and people should try to get over it. Read a little, watch some Brokeback Mountain, look around you in general. And if you don't like it, just how I didn't enjoy making Kratos in God of War 3 hump a few women, get over it and just enjoy the damn game.
And as for the certain few of us stating that "OMG ThIs S*** is SOOOO WROng!!" I recommend that your children play nothing but interactive Sudoku because most games of our day surround themselves in violence, blood, etc which really isn't such a good thing.
And if you play the Gears of War series you have queer tendencies. (<---- this is a "joke")
Ahem, so being rather trained on the subject of gayness, it's actually a good thing for society that producers and developers are revealing the more "real" aspects of human relations. Being gay isn't exactly very common but in the case of Mass Effect 3 I'm sure that being stuck in a space ship with a limited amount of people/creatures could make people question their sexuality when the hormones get flowing. It happens, for goodness sake.
Anyway, I'm not going to stand around here saying that it's great and that all games need to have such things because at the end of the day I believe that if queer people, such as myself, run around proudly proclaiming their queerness then straight people can do it too. What I'm trying to say is that it really isn't a big deal and people should try to get over it. Read a little, watch some Brokeback Mountain, look around you in general. And if you don't like it, just how I didn't enjoy making Kratos in God of War 3 hump a few women, get over it and just enjoy the damn game.
And as for the certain few of us stating that "OMG ThIs S*** is SOOOO WROng!!" I recommend that your children play nothing but interactive Sudoku because most games of our day surround themselves in violence, blood, etc which really isn't such a good thing.
And if you play the Gears of War series you have queer tendencies. (<---- this is a "joke")
Graal
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My point exactly. I don't want people to appluad me for coming out or being gay when I walk down the street, holding hands with another guy. I don't even want them to notice any more than if I were to walk with a girl. It's just supposed to be that natural and normal.
Another thing I've found is people often look down on me for being bisexual. They simply can't understand it, they want me to be either gay or straight. I've even had a girlfriend break up with me after I told her, because she felt threatened by the notion. The way I see it, I'm not attracted to gender, I'm attracted to people. I don't have a particular preference when it comes to genders.
Voicy
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That is the most enlightening thing I've read in a very long time. So much simpler a concept.
Long thread is long. I read a lot of the responses but not all of them. I'm just going to state how I feel on the subject.
I have no problem with homosexuality in games. I do have a very big problem with it being shoved into the game simply for the sake of being there and generating controversy. Like anything else, there are tasteful ways to go about these things and there are just downright WRONG ways to go about *cough* Dragon Age 2 *cough*. Portray it "realistically" and not as something even homosexuals would shun and the most rabid homophobes will come to accept it as depth as opposed to disgusting and a waste of disk space.
Basically, if homosexuality is in your game and there is little/no media attention/controversy around it, you've probably done it right. The same goes for violence, sex, nudity and any other controversial subject. Just as important, you probably shouldn't feel the need to draw attention to that specific "feature", if its done tastefully it will be a seamless part of the game.
I have no problem with homosexuality in games. I do have a very big problem with it being shoved into the game simply for the sake of being there and generating controversy. Like anything else, there are tasteful ways to go about these things and there are just downright WRONG ways to go about *cough* Dragon Age 2 *cough*. Portray it "realistically" and not as something even homosexuals would shun and the most rabid homophobes will come to accept it as depth as opposed to disgusting and a waste of disk space.
Basically, if homosexuality is in your game and there is little/no media attention/controversy around it, you've probably done it right. The same goes for violence, sex, nudity and any other controversial subject. Just as important, you probably shouldn't feel the need to draw attention to that specific "feature", if its done tastefully it will be a seamless part of the game.
James
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BioWare should really mess with gamer's heads on this one. Gamer's are sluts for big in-game item rewards - we'll go out of our way to grind for hours if it will give us an advantage in the next segment of the game. How about rewarding those who engage in a homosexual relationship with a really powerful gun? Something that the 'straight' players cannot get their hands on.
I await the shitstorm of a response
I await the shitstorm of a response
Necuno
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BioWare should really mess with gamer's heads on this one. Gamer's are sluts for big in-game item rewards - we'll go out of our way to grind for hours if it will give us an advantage in the next segment of the game. How about rewarding those who engage in a homosexual relationship with a really powerful gun? Something that the 'straight' players cannot get their hands on.
I await the shitstorm of a response
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