Guild Wars 2

Buy the game, no subscription fees.The microtransactions are not game changing or unfair advantages in most games that have that model.They are the same as Guild wars 1 probably, little things like extra slots, makeovers for your character, pvp unlock packs, maybe some extra skins,shortcuts for certain skin packs for weapons.

Nothing you can't already get in-game.And from that article you can buy all of this with in-game gold as well.

Like I said before, the micro system is not a F2P model, but little extra things if you want to.But there are no real advantages to them.
 
Pr⊕phet said:
so GW2 is going PAY2WIN ?
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Where do you get that from?

Guild Wars 2 has been a one time purchase since they announced the game and that has never changed. You don't need subscription fees to run an MMO, pretty sure I recall a few articles about the actual cost of running WoW servers and that the price you pay for an expansion should basically cover a full year or more of running a server. Hell when you look at the price you pay per month for wow subs and the dribble of content they put out you could be buying 2-3games per patch.

So the whole f2p = pay2win bullshit is honestly nonsense 90% of the time.

Here’s our philosophy on microtransactions: We think players should have the opportunity to spend money on items that provide visual distinction and offer more ways to express themselves. They should also be able to spend money on account services and on time-saving convenience items. But it’s never OK for players to buy a game and not be able to enjoy what they paid for without additional purchases, and it’s never OK for players who spend money to have an unfair advantage over players who spend time.
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There is no and will never be an advantage at all from GW/GW2 micro transactions. All they sell are character slots, pet unlocks and skins.
 
Pr⊕phet said:
so GW2 is going PAY2WIN ?
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NO he is just being on his #%^^ high horse again, probably trolling me because he knows he will get a reaction. Necuno, please stay away from this thread, just go play to SWTOR really. You don't have anything to contribute here, because 'ek is hierdie fokken imba programmer, ek weet alles' still seems that you either CANT think (analysing). So much for that, I hope I stay a better programmer than you. If your trolling, begone too please.

Its clear that your not going to play GW2, so leave here please.

I have nothing else to add to the payment model, other people including one post above yours has already answered GW2 payment model enough.


READ the posts (above yours) before you comment shit...
 
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MOnk said:
Where do you get that from?
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Just some random honest question, but it stems from the 500+ odd comments on facebook. I thought myg was better community to relay and wait for decent info ;)

ChameleonDevil said:
NO he is just being on his #%^^ high horse again
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jirre julle mense is kwaai so vroeg op lekker vakansie dag... lol.

Glordit said:
There is no and will never be an advantage at all from GW/GW2 micro transactions. All they sell are character slots, pet unlocks and skins.
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As long as it doesn't become like champions online where everything is like R80-R150 per element you buy. That's just stupid.
 
Clearly Prophet you are either not reading wtf anyone says or you have not followed anything on GW2 since it's announcement or you are just painfully arrogant and won't understand.

GW2 is not a F2P model, not even a little bit.You can't compare something that is not even in the same category.

A-net clearly said, on many occasions, that ALL content will be available to EVERYONE from the start.The micro model is for additional account content, that give no advantage, that changes nothing except maybe skins etc.

And please, instead of replying to my post with some arrogant comment or ego boosting shit I do not care about.Go read the A-net blog and find things out for yourself.Or even this: http://www.bob-guild.net/gw/page.php?69

All the info you need is in that link.Enjoy.
 
Spartan, Thanks for the info.

I really don't get the animosity or foam at the mouth. Was it such a sin to link a comment from FB?
 
You seem like an intelligent human being Prophet.So why comment something from random people when you are probably well enough versed in the interwebs and can find this out for yourself?

No animosity.You tend to piss people off with your arrogance, maybe try and work on that.Anyhoo...on to GW2 topics again.
 
Spartan said:
You seem like an intelligent human being Prophet.So why comment something from random people when you are probably well enough versed in the interwebs and can find this out for yourself?

No animosity.You tend to piss people off with your arrogance, maybe try and work on that.Anyhoo...on to GW2 topics again.
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Noted.


I guess today is safe to say, if you have not received an invite you are not getting one.
 
Spartan said:
Clearly Prophet you are either not reading wtf anyone says or you have not followed anything on GW2 since it's announcement or you are just painfully arrogant and won't understand.
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lol... Prophet again making trouble here, but thats nothing new :D

He is KING don't show him wrong otherwise he will cry, would not suprise me if he is still 15 years old.
 
Shirou said:
lol... Prophet again making trouble here, but thats nothing new :D

He is KING don't show him wrong otherwise he will cry, would not suprise me if he is still 15 years old.
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Nope he is not, he made it clear on a previous occassion that he is some godlike programmer and all things said by us lesser beings (and programmers) do not apply.

Necuno, you don't get it? I call BS ffs. Anyway ek gaan try afkoel, and back on topic: hope you read the article Spartan gave you. Dit is die laaste keer, stop being so sceptical about the game. For once, think (after all, programmers should be able to think??) of what GW2 does different, and not what you already made it up to be; some money making poor developed F2P pay-to-win crap.

Procuno said:
I guess today is safe to say, if you have not received an invite you are not getting one.
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Yes, I believe everyone got invites already :'(
 
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Pr⊕phet said:
Just some random honest question, but it stems from the 500+ odd comments on facebook. I thought myg was better community to relay and wait for decent info ;)


jirre julle mense is kwaai so vroeg op lekker vakansie dag... lol.


As long as it doesn't become like champions online where everything is like R80-R150 per element you buy. That's just stupid.
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The only time Play2Win works is with gold farming in GW. :/
 
and it’s never OK for players who spend money to have an unfair advantage over players who spend time."
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I have a real problem with this. Consider the following: by Arenanet's own admission, you can buy gems with real money and then trade those gems for in game gold. To cut out the middle man, this means you can buy in game gold with real money. Are we agreed on this? It is similar to a system in Eve that allows you to do the same.

Now if we are agreed on this then let us maker another assumption: in game gear is not going to be ALL bind on pickup, there will be gear you can trade with people and hence buy with in game gold. If this was not the case then GW2 would not have an in game economy. Are we agreed on this point as well?

So in effect, you can buy in game gold with real money and then spend that in game gold to buy in game items, armour, weapons etc. So take player A, who ONLY plays the game and does not spend real money buying gems and spends her/his "time" adventuring and selling items on the AH to make money to buy better gear on that AH. That person spends a lot of time doing it.
Player B spends real world money to buy gems, buys in game gold with the gems and spends it on buying sword of mightiness +10, all in the space of 10 minutes.

Now how does that statement at the start of this post hold true now? The only way that it will hold true is if Arenanet abolishes a player economy and makes everything bind on pickup. Which they are not doing, since the same post from them mentions player stalls.

Can you now see why I am more than a little angry? Microtransactions that allow you to buy fluff and xp potions I have no problem with. Using your credit card to buy items, I do, most assuredly.

Edit: if I have made any incorrect assumptions in my post, please feel free to tell me where.
 
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So just wondering if this has been covered yet, it does have me a little worried...
So I will go pre-purchase two copies of the Collectors Edition (UK side) on the 10th and then according to the F&Q this will happen:

• Collector's Edition (North America and Europe)—Customers will buy the Collector's Edition Pre-Purchase box and receive a Pre-Purchase serial code. They will then go to https://register.guildwars2.com and follow the on-screen instructions to create a Guild Wars 2 account and apply the serial code, which will give them access to Beta Weekend Events and three-day Headstart Access to the final game. When Guild Wars 2 launches, customers will need to return to their retailer with proof of purchase to receive the full Collector's Edition box with physical items and retail serial code. They will need to apply this retail serial code to their Guild Wars 2 account within five days to continue playing without interruption.
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So go register the Pre-Purchase serial code on the site have fun and then when Guild Wars 2 comes to launch ... that's the part I'm worried about.
I tweeted Arenanet with:
Twitter Question
Talk to your local retailer about it...
So to put my worries aside I've thought of two options I could do...
Option 1) Have my brother collect the HC and all it's goodies for me in the UK from a retailer there (I'm sure Game Station and Game will get it) he can then send me the digital code and then post the package off to me?

or

Option 2) Spoken with Zaps and they looking into it or I hope that BT Games gets the collectors copy.

How are you guys/ladies planning on doing your purchase?
 
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Shrike said:
I have a real problem with this. Consider the following: by Arenanet's own admission, you can buy gems with real money and then trade those gems for in game gold. To cut out the middle man, this means you can buy in game gold with real money. Are we agreed on this? It is similar to a system in Eve that allows you to do the same.

Now if we are agreed on this then let us maker another assumption: in game gear is not going to be ALL bind on pickup, there will be gear you can trade with people and hence buy with in game gold. If this was not the case then GW2 would not have an in game economy. Are we agreed on this point as well?

So in effect, you can buy in game gold with real money and then spend that in game gold to buy in game items, armour, weapons etc. So take player A, who ONLY plays the game and does not spend real money buying gems and spends her/his "time" adventuring and selling items on the AH to make money to buy better gear on that AH. That person spends a lot of time doing it.
Player B spends real world money to buy gems, buys in game gold with the gems and spends it on buying sword of mightiness +10, all in the space of 10 minutes.

Now how does that statement at the start of this post hold true now? The only way that it will hold true is if Arenanet abolishes a player economy and makes everything bind on pickup. Which they are not doing, since the same post from them mentions player stalls.

Can you now see why I am more than a little angry? Microtransactions that allow you to buy fluff and xp potions I have no problem with. Using your credit card to buy items, I do, most assuredly.

Edit: if I have made any incorrect assumptions in my post, please feel free to tell me where.
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You seem to think buying gold with real money is something new and only happens in games with micro-transactions, I'll tell you now that's not true. Played wow for a long time and many many people buy gold in that game, it didn't destroy the economy nor did it give them any kind of real advantage. Sure they had a bit of an advantage for like the first few weeks of an expansion when they could buy all the mats for entry level craftables but it didn't take long to catch up. The guys in my guild who actually had crazy amounts of gold didn't buy it, they just loved playing the auction house and would sit for hours buying and selling.

So when you put together the fact that a) GW2's item tiers at max level dungeons only offer cosmetic changes to gear b) no mmo worth it's salt would have the best gear acquirable with gold, you really start to see that this would be unlikely to break the game in any significant way. Oh yes not to mention in PvP (non-WvWvW) everyone has the same gear.

Even when you look at the fundamentals, you have to ask, should you really be upset about the gear someone else has? Surely you're the 'richer' player if you put some effort and had a blast acquiring your gear than someone who just went and bought the stuff?
 
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