New Mass Effect game in development, BioWare confirms
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OmegaFenix
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, 3 games each with a 30 + hours of gameplay, each with alot of replay ability and people writing the entire series off because of an unpopular ending that lasted about 15 minutes, this seems really stupid too me.
Yes some of the 42% that actually finished the game didn't like the ending but that is no reason to scrap an amazing universe.
I am cautiously optimistic, the Mass Effect universe has alot of potential.
TheAvenged87
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Yeah, you can't really scratch such a rich universe. It has so much potential and many more stories can take place there.
Nee man. The endings aren't THAT bad. Also, the entire game was kind of an ending to me. If you view it in it's entirety, it really wasn't that bad. (Probably not the greatest one, but that doesn't really matter).
I see what you did there.
Duke Dude
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Call of Mass Assassins?
I don't know what to think of this announcement so far. Mass Effect 3 definitely ended the "Shepherd Trilogy", we can't see Shepherd at all. If we do then I see this game flopping.
I agree with Omega though, the Mass Effect Universe has a lot of potential and a rich lore! Much like the Star Wars Universe, so there's definitely room for more games to take place in it. But another "galaxy ending" threat just wouldn't work. Another Mass Effect would have to be smaller in scope.
So if done right, a new Mass Effect can be awesome!
But if ME3 (And I'm not just judging by the ending, I'm talking about the experience as a whole) the series has hit a low. So I'll hang onto my reservations.
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OmegaFenix
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Every IP is getting milked, risking millions of a new IP just doesn't happen anymore because we've shown time and time again that we dont want new, new IP's bomb more often then they succeed. We, the game buying public, are responsible for this trend.
Call of Mass Assassins?
I don't know what to think of this announcement so far. Mass Effect 3 definitely ended the "Shepherd Trilogy", we can't see Shepherd at all. If we do then I see this game flopping.
I agree with Omega though, the Mass Effect Universe has a lot of potential and a rich lore! Much like the Star Wars Universe, so there's definitely room for more games to take place in it. But another "galaxy ending" threat just wouldn't work. Another Mass Effect would have to be smaller in scope.
So if done right, a new Mass Effect can be awesome!
But if ME3 (And I'm not just judging by the ending, I'm talking about the experience as a whole) the series has hit a low. So I'll hang onto my reservations.
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Yeah they should reduce the scope of the threat but keep the scope of the game, maybe even give us more planets and larger areas to explore.
A inter species war or something would be a cool setting but yeah.
This, to me, feels like a cheap ill conceived idea though. Since the events of ME3 basically sent the galaxy back to the dark ages no matter what option you chose it was a pretty definite ending to the series. You can go the Halo 3: ODST way and set it during the events of one of the previous games but like out of the way but tying all the ends together for the different experiences of all the players that made different choices seems like an insurmountable task.
Part of me wishes they would make this:
Graal
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Well, this comes as no big surprise. Unless they set it before the events of the first three games, I just can't see it working out, though.
The best thing to do would be to have it play out during the reaper invasion of the Prothean universe/timeline. Otherwise I can't really think how they're going to do it, what with the end of ME3 basically destroying the ME3 universe as we knew it.
The best thing to do would be to have it play out during the reaper invasion of the Prothean universe/timeline. Otherwise I can't really think how they're going to do it, what with the end of ME3 basically destroying the ME3 universe as we knew it.
Duke Dude
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I don't think it necessarily has to be set pre-Shepherd or during the events of the Reaper invasion but just from a different perspective. I think a new installment could very well work post Reapers.
Depending on player choices, there could be a very big Krogan problem! I definitely see some from of inter-galactic travel without the Mass Relays, the Crucible is floating in Earth's orbit. It's Prothean technology. So I definitely think that's a possibility.
So yeah, I think Mass Effect could definitely work after the events of the Reaper invasion.
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Depending on player choices, there could be a very big Krogan problem! I definitely see some from of inter-galactic travel without the Mass Relays, the Crucible is floating in Earth's orbit. It's Prothean technology. So I definitely think that's a possibility.
So yeah, I think Mass Effect could definitely work after the events of the Reaper invasion.
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OmegaFenix
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Yeah but which ending do you use? Also there is a pretty massive difference in the endings, in terms of what happens. As they would need to make 3 vastly different games to account for the 3 endings. Without the mass relays cross galaxy travel is impossible so they would have to reduce the size of the map to only include the solar system you are in and those immediately around it.
The only ways around the ME3 endings is a retcon or choosing the most likely ending (Destruction) and using it as cannon which would defectively reduce the idea of player choice to an even larger joke all of which would infuriate the remaining loyal fans like me. It has to be set before the ME3 endings or... several thousand years later but that would still leave you with the different endings to contend with.
Duke Dude
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All the endings (Except for the ending where Shepherd does nothing, but I highly doubt BioWare would take that one into account.) have one thing in common, Shepherd dies saving the Universe and his crew survives. So if you were to create a new game, you wouldn't have to take over you choices from ME3. What BioWare could do is have the new ME game read your save file and see what your Shepherd chose at the end of ME3, and then that would influence certain conversations and general lore going forward. Much like what they did with the Dark Horse comic at the beginning on ME2 on the PS3.
So the ending of ME3 would play a minimal role really, and it would leave room for BioWare to create a new story in the same Universe with a new hero without milking the Reapers.
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Graal
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The problem with setting it after 3 is they are inevitably going to piss some fans off. There's not really any way around it. Setting it before the events of the trilogy, or even making it completely unrelated to the trilogy is the easiest way to avoid that. Imagine a game chronicling humanity's initial discovery of the mass effect relay and thus their first contact with the other intergalactic species and the fights surrounding it.
Except, Bioware likely won't be allowed to do something like that. EA would never allow it. If you're not dealing with a world/galaxy ending threat, EA probably won't care.
Except, Bioware likely won't be allowed to do something like that. EA would never allow it. If you're not dealing with a world/galaxy ending threat, EA probably won't care.
bradbear117
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I have lots of faith in the IP. Only a team of complete utter morons could turn it into something bad.
I think it would probably focus on a new crew entirely. Hanging onto Shepherd wouldn't be a good idea, even though he/she is a total video game legend.
Actually wouldn't mind seeing the events that unfolded in the Protheans cycle.
I think it would probably focus on a new crew entirely. Hanging onto Shepherd wouldn't be a good idea, even though he/she is a total video game legend.
Actually wouldn't mind seeing the events that unfolded in the Protheans cycle.
OmegaFenix
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Synergy ending complete re-wires all biological life in the Galaxy. Destruction Destroys all artificial life, Control has the reapers remaining around under the control of Shep. The difference in the setting, tone, "feel" of any post ME3 setting is too great. Like I said you would have to make 3 different games to account for all of this and then put enough similarities in it that it would allow for Multiple path, multi character progression not to mention building a single story that would fit in any of the 3 different post ME3 scenarios would be a nigh insurmountable challenge. It simply isn't feasible from a development stand point IMO.
I think Graal's idea of setting it during/around the first contact war would be interesting.
Duke Dude
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A game set during Humanity's discovery of alien races would definitely be a good setting, the only problem is nothing exciting happens during that time.
All the history on that moment that you can read in-game suggest it was generally a peaceful discovery. I'm sure that there were certain "black op" missions conducted by Humanity during that time, that could be the focus for a new game, but I think it would just be too small for the ME IP.
This is why I say post-Reaper. There's just so much more one can do. And yeah, I'm some fans will always get their panties in a knot, but as long as you stay true to the IP then there's nothing one can do really.
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Duke Dude
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Hmm... I guess. I'm just thinking, how many ME games could you create around the Reapers or pre-Reapers? Not many, certainly not a trilogy. Would it not make sense to invest more time in creating three separate canons for the three different endings? But as the Synergy ending stuffs everything up, so that wouldn't be possible I see now...
So BioWare can either go one of two ways then. Re-write the Mass Effect story, only taking into account Shepherd's good choices and making him the ultimate hero. Or we get a pre-Reaper game, which would make a brilliant prequel but I see that only working for one installment.
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OmegaFenix
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The most intresting parts of history are often omitted from the history books.
I think it would be a brilliant time to explore, imagine the cultural, social and philosophical implications of a first contact scenario, imagine the ideas they could explore, xenophobia etc.