DGH appears to hate anyone who is pro-consumer and who says anything negative about his favorite corporations. (at least that's the vibe I've been getting the last couple of years).
I just never have like either of them. They are elitist, cynical, contrarians and for a fleeting moment I lost my cool and reverted to unnecessary name calling after trying to read Jim's review of NMS and trying to watch TB's video. Perhaps I was just a bit too much of a fanboy and too much of the typical internet personality that we all no and hate, but it happened. But, I still don't like them.
I must admit that I find your opinion on them, or at least TB somewhat very curious


. Particularly the assertion that "They are
elitist, cynical, contrarians"
I only say that because, in TB's case in particular, he's been a big proponent of engaging in nuanced discussion vs engaging in outright arguments, because for the most part when he tackles a subject, he gives a fair, balanced, and logical discussion, usually landing of the middle, and giving credence to either sides of the discussion. Granted, I may like this about him as a result of myself being a fan of nuanced discussion vs right or wrong, left or right type discussion where the conversation ends up with toxic us vs them scenarios that stifle discussion entirely as opposed to nurturing, if you seen any of my 2 cent posts regarding anything, then you'll understand the kind of discourse I engage in most of the time, and it's by and large similar to the nuanced discussions TB himself nurtures (it's somewhat evident when you have a look at the discussions in his subreddit).
If you've watched his videos, you'll also be inclined to note that while his main mantra is to be pro-consumer, he expects some responsibility of his fans and consumers in terms of how they discuss things (nurture discussion, don't stifle it with extreme positions). In fact that's similar to how he treats the developers and corporations that steer the industry. He applauds and criticizes in a nuanced fashion (yes, nuance is my favorite word, I've come to realize) across the board. Why would I say that? I've seen him dish out criticism and praise across the AAA spectrum and Indie space fairly.
And maybe to some degree, there is a bit of contrarian nature, but is it fair to say that in a negative connotation? I ask because by virtue of him giving the kind of discourse he does, it means he's inherently contrary to pre-order culture, he's inherently contrary to heaping praise or criticism without giving it critical thought and in the interests of disclosure, expressing his thought process, and the internet basically thrives on hype or bashing one or way or the other as opposed to balanced discussion that is thought out. So inherently there's some contrarian in there, but your use of it without context is unfair and doesn't exactly explain the negative connotation you attached to it.
Now don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting you should like him, liking or disliking his content is neither here because we're individuals with different tastes, and he himself has advocated that people have multiple alternative sources for information, but I think your claim to him being elitist or contrarian is somewhat misguided in the context of his body of work.
Discuss or argue the points before you argue the man. And all I'm saying is, his body of work and content is very contrary to your assertion that he is elitist by the very definition of the term elitist.
P.S. I didn't really dispute the cynical point point because, yes to a degree they carry a degree of cynicism but the cynicism has context as well, and it's feels a bit disingenuous to mention it without giving some context. So I won't really argue the cynicism but I'll say I understand where it comes from.
P.P.S Always remember folks, when people criticize something, they're not attacking you, they're just analyzing why it doesn't work for them, especially when they concede to seeing why it might work for other people, and they're always looking at the different angles of the discussion.
^Dee's 2 cents.