No sign of Battlefield 3 on Steam

[Graal]

Lol, whatta chop ..... no tantrum my side nor is it a game I'm fapping over (original of you there, I must say ). Defensive much, idiot?

Don't mind him too much dude, he sometimes has a difficult time interacting with people online.

Much the same as Mephisto who doesn't like that we're not getting the game if it's not on the platform of our preference?

I'm not here to fight with anyone. I just find it weird that someone would tell me Im spiting myself by not wanting to buy a game I'm not really sure I want to buy in the first place if it's not on the platform I want it to be on. I'm not as anxious as most other people for the game, and I'm more than willing to wait for it to eventually come to Steam. If it doesn't, tough luck for me.

Err, retail will be in a box just like most other games, including being downloadable via Origin.

I don't think he's being stupid at all. If it's not on steam, tough crap. Buy the physical retail copy.

See, there's the thing. I thought retail was going to use Origin. Now what was the problem again?

 

[to0kenZA]

Much the same as Mephisto who doesn't like that we're not getting the game if it's not on the platform of our preference?

I'm not here to fight with anyone. I just find it weird that someone would tell me Im spiting myself by not wanting to buy a game I'm not really sure I want to buy in the first place if it's not on the platform I want it to be on. I'm not as anxious as most other people for the game, and I'm more than willing to wait for it to eventually come to Steam. If it doesn't, tough luck for me.



See, there's the thing. I thought retail was going to use Origin. Now what was the problem again?

Egg-fuggin-xactly!

 

[czc]

Sort of like Dirt 2 and 3 through steam still use GFWL.

 

[Graal]

Egg-fuggin-xactly!

Doesn't change anything, though. Still not getting it if I can't get it on Steam. I want to be able to go anywhere in the world and install and play it there, not have to carry a disk around.

 

[Tank]

Sort of like Dirt 2 and 3 through steam still use GFWL.

pretty much yeah.

toys out of the cot for no reason other than being able to do it

 

[DarthMol]

No worries for me, was going for the physical copy anyways, downloading it on 384 would mean I'd still be waiting for my dl to complete while everyone else is experiencing its awesomeness

 

[to0kenZA]

Doesn't change anything, though. Still not getting it if I can't get it on Steam. I want to be able to go anywhere in the world and install and play it there, not have to carry a disk around.

I say make the fussy bastards suffer!!

 

[wheunis]

Retail Wheunis?

I mean im not judging or anything but just cause its not on steam you wont get it?

.....

While you do have a valid view on it, see it from someone else's perspective for a moment.
The main problem for me has become damage to physical media. Secondary to that is damage to hardware. If there is one thing I have gotten so sick of in the last decade, it's optical disk drives simply dying for no good reason.
While people would go around and sling their feces at my face for not removing the disc from the drive and storing it safely when I'm done playing, I have to wonder what kind of backwards mentality they persist in their lives.
Is it suddenly better just because it's backwards? No.
Does it suddenly blow my world into tiny bits because it seems unlikely that I will play this game? No.

I would love for somebody to rationally explain to me why it is so wrong to want something my way.
I don't like optical discs. End of it. You won't ever manage to persuade me to like them.
I don't like mechanical drives that are prone to failure at 1000 hours operation. Same as above.
Even if I were to tolerate both the above, I have very limited physical storage space. Pretty much just my desk area. That's all I have. I am not allowed to mount shelves if they will leave marks or require drilling. Landlord's orders are solid on that.

So... what is so wrong in saying "If not digital, then nothing at all".
More on the multi-source further down.

Retail is going to use Origin, as far as I know.

Err, retail will be in a box just like most other games, including being downloadable via Origin.

Valve will push Origin on you, in the retail copy.
It will become their "DRM" just like Steam is to Valve. Funny part of the story is that even though I use Steam, I don't own a single Valve game at all. But just as Valve forces Steam on you in their retail copies of games, EA will do the same.

So really, as mentioned above and with further below... No Steam = 99% chance of me skipping BF3.

I already have three, but now it's an encumbrance to keep everything updated. Primarily I use Steam and GoG, then EDM for some titles I got really cheap before it went all ZOMG LOCAL PRICE++.

Yeah. I just don't see myself going that way.
I have in my entire life not been so desperate for a special that I felt like changing the way I purchase.
D2D can have a special on something for however low they want. At some point in the not too distant future, that exact same special (or better) will be on every other distro's list sooner or later. Might as well wait a while.
And if it never happens, then so be it. My whole existence as never been flattened due to not playing this or that title.

I understand why you went the route you did. Such is your choice and freedom to do so.
I rather decided to carefully evaluate all options available and stick to my choice right up to the end.
If I ever do abandon Steam for something else, it will be entirely. I hate doing things half-arsed.

No worries for me, was going for the physical copy anyways, downloading it on 384 would mean I'd still be waiting for my dl to complete while everyone else is experiencing its awesomeness

That concern I can appreciate.
Luckily, Steam and it's kin (D2D, GoG, etc) all allow pre-download of the pre-order purchases. Around 2 weeks before shelf-date, the download will already be going. All but the most valuable files for execution of the game will already be on your machine for the midnight release. At that point your PC would only download the remaining few executable and DLL files on release day, and whatever extra patched info might be there (retail also needs to download that as well anyway).


I don't see why my choice (or anyone else's) should be ridiculed or treated as inferior by any members. A little disappointed in some of the members that I thought I could respect...
I never posted that your preferred platform is the most retarded thing on the planet, or that you're some kind of inferior bacteria for choosing said distribution, or for that matter that you're borderline functionally retarded for deciding to stick to your choices.

But hey, it's your choice if anybody prefers to act like a backwards, retarded, ignorant caveman.
I will be over here leaving you and your decisions well enough alone and not sinking to name-calling...

And yes, implying a tantrum is calling me a kid.
Calling me stupid doesn't help your credibility or maturity much.
I will just happily continue to engage people in conversation, while reporting such posts directed at me as inflammatory and offensive.

 

[OGBuzz]

Hey Whenuis

I understand where you come from 1

dont know why everybody is getting upset and calling names here, LOL just take it easy.

i Often buy the physical disk just because i have that collectors mentality, but i really think steam is the "go to" app for games.
I dont see what the big fuss is about if you want to do what you want to do, hec its your choice, you're almost being crucified for it. The other day i saw a friend of mine write somewhere that Mw3 > Bf3 and he really means it, a part of me felt like i should tell him hes wrong however is my perspective and not his so i didnt think much of it past that, it seems sometimes people want to force their choices up you too.

PS im holding thumbs that they put it on steam so that you too can jam the game

 

[to0kenZA]

/snippety snip

Ok dude, first of all- Valve is not going to push anything on anyone. EA has too many deals with too many retailers already. I will put my cock on a block when I say the retail version will come out as a physical disc.

Secondly, and no offence towards you, but if anyone is not willing to play BF3 just because:

1) They don't like discs
2) If it's not on steam, then it's bad
3) They're not excited for this game

Then quite frankly, they shouldn't even be having this conversation in this thread, or even any these where at all. There's always Peggle Extreme- available on Steam.

DISCLAIMER: Since people take things a bit too seriously these days, I just want to add that this post is not directed at anyone specifically, but rather those that really don't want to buy this game but still feels the need to come stir shit.

 

[Graal]

it seems sometimes people want to force their choices up you too.

That's the problem. On here and on the MyBroadband forums I've noticed a big 'mob-mentality' thing going on. If your preferences or opinions don't align with the majority's opinions and preferences, they alienate you for it. They simply don't seem to understand that not everybody needs to conform to the ideals and opinions of the hivemind.

Take to0kenZA's reply below yours as an example. He basically tells us the reasons why we're not going to buy BF3 is invalid and stupid, because he doesn't subscribe to the same opinion. He simply refuses to understand that perhaps our reasons for wanting games on Steam as opposed to retail isn't simply about trying to spite anyone. I put much more value in my Steam games library than the library of games on my physical shelf. For me it's fun scrolling through my list of games in Steam, and it gives me a strange sense of satisfaction seeing that list grow every once in a while. Steam is also very convenient for me, and it's my distribution method of choice, because it saves me time. Sure, I need to wait for my games to fnish downloading after release and I can't play them immediately, but once the game is installed, I never have to worry about manually downloading and installing patches, having 1gb patches corrupt halfway through the download, etc. Steam does it all for me.

Besides that, BF3 isn't an important release on my horizon. I barely follow the gaming news on it, so I don't care much for it. Only time I'll get it is if I have nothing else to play, and then only if it's on my terms. If it's not on Steam, tough luck. Maybe if I was really actually excited for the game, I would have bought it regardless of whether it's on Steam or not, but I'm not. My excitement level for it is 'meh' at best, so I don't see what the problem is if I don't want to buy it if it's not on Steam.

As for the peggle comment. That was really :|

 

[to0kenZA]

Take to0kenZA's reply below yours as an example. He basically tells us the reasons why we're not going to buy BF3 is invalid and stupid, because he doesn't subscribe to the same opinion. He simply refuses to understand that perhaps our reasons for wanting games on Steam as opposed to retail isn't simply about trying to spite anyone. I put much more value in my Steam games library than the library of games on my physical shelf. For me it's fun scrolling through my list of games in Steam, and it gives me a strange sense of satisfaction seeing that list grow every once in a while. Steam is also very convenient for me, and it's my distribution method of choice, because it saves me time. Sure, I need to wait for my games to fnish downloading after release and I can't play them immediately, but once the game is installed, I never have to worry about manually downloading and installing patches, having 1gb patches corrupt halfway through the download, etc. Steam does it all for me.

Besides that, BF3 isn't an important release on my horizon. I barely follow the gaming news on it, so I don't care much for it. Only time I'll get it is if I have nothing else to play, and then only if it's on my terms. If it's not on Steam, tough luck. Maybe if I was really actually excited for the game, I would have bought it regardless of whether it's on Steam or not, but I'm not. My excitement level for it is 'meh' at best, so I don't see what the problem is if I don't want to buy it if it's not on Steam.

As for the peggle comment. That was really :|

Dude, seriously. Seriously?!

-_-

If you don't want to get a game, just because it comes out on a disc, like MOST other media, then it's your own nose being cut off to spite your face. How can you be so opinionated that you can't even see a 100% logically sound argument that's right in front of you?! If you don't really want the game, why are you even getting so worked up about it?

So basically, you weren't planning on buying the game anyway? Then you're a troll.

If you were planning on getting it, you're not getting it anymore because it's not on Steam. Really? Lol... I have no words for how ridiculous that it. I can't even have a casual laugh about it, that's how backwards that argument is.

/awaiting replay about how BF3 coming out on a disc is affecting their human rights and freedom

 

[Necuno]

/sense much mob in to0kenZA

 

[Mephisto_Helix]

If you don't wanna get the game, have no interest in getting the game and post in a thread that is about the game ....... and then get all offended ...... well, no words really.

 

[to0kenZA]

/sense much mob in to0kenZA

Have you ever!

If you don't wanna get the game, have no interest in getting the game and post in a thread that is about the game ....... and then get all offended ...... well, no words really.

Exactly my point.



I've already said this to someone this morning, but let me say it again. This is the PERFECT example of people being so full of shit that they don't even notice it anymore. Or, on the other hand Darren, they know it but now they're just making every excuse in the book to appear as if they're not.

Actually, you know what? I just decided I'm not getting this game anymore because it's coming out on a round disc. I wanted it to be triangular. Better luck with your media format next time, DICE.

/buys the mob a round of beer

 

[wheunis]

That's a photo of the last disc I ever bought.
The nubbin of the case that holds the disc down, is to blame.

That happened 4 days after I bought the game. Putting the disc back into it's case, it simply snapped.

Shop rightly refused to replace it, as any other would also do with PC games.
I tried contacting the suppliers/distributors, and they labelled it malicious damage and that they only replace disks that was damaged in shipping or manufacturing.

So To0ken... exactly how am I unreasonable in saying that I refuse to use discs?
And further on that, how is it unreasonable for me to refuse to use multiple distribution platforms?

How is it backwards of me to insist on using digital distribution? I find it rather more backwards to use antiquated disc media. But I understand the collector's value some people have on them, and at the very least, I don't belittle anyone for it.

Seriously man, you're losing a LOT of respect here.

 

[to0kenZA]

That's a photo of the last disc I ever bought.
The nubbin of the case that holds the disc down, is to blame.

That happened 4 days after I bought the game. Putting the disc back into it's case, it simply snapped.

Shop rightly refused to replace it, as any other would also do with PC games.
I tried contacting the suppliers/distributors, and they labelled it malicious damage and that they only replace disks that was damaged in shipping or manufacturing.

So To0ken... exactly how am I unreasonable in saying that I refuse to use discs?
And further on that, how is it unreasonable for me to refuse to use multiple distribution platforms?

How is it backwards of me to insist on using digital distribution? I find it rather more backwards to use antiquated disc media. But I understand the collector's value some people have on them, and at the very least, I don't belittle anyone for it.

Seriously man, you're losing a LOT of respect here.

I think you're completely missing the point here dude. Where the hell did I belittle anyone?!

I was trying to point out the absolute ludicrous fact that people are going to miss out on this game because of the fact that they refuse to buy the game no a disc and not being able to get it from Steam.

If you want to "lose" your respect over that, then so be it! Sheesh, this is getting totally ridiculous.

 

[OGBuzz]

Whenius i see where your frustration is coming from, really i do but i must say is that i hope this isnt the main reason your not using disks anymore because of that whole debacle...

lets look at it from this prospective

I purchase a brand new iphone 4, the thing works great, few days in the touch screen functionality stops working, i take it in and months down the line its finally sorted, i now decide hec im not buying touch screen cellphones anymore because this particular one broke

Yes the nubbin did break and it damaged the cd, but does that mean all disks are now going to be the same, no

and yes i see you want to avoid disks completely but perhaps you should avoid them only when you can, if you cant, take the chance i'll bet you wont have any issues with the retail copy of BF3, again its your choice.

It comes across to me as a little bit illogical

but its my perspective and opinion

no offense meant to you Whenuis...just what i think...

its your choice mate, not mine

 

[Graal]

If you don't wanna get the game, have no interest in getting the game and post in a thread that is about the game ....... and then get all offended ...... well, no words really.

I initially only posted to say I'm disappointed it won't be on Steam. You were the ones who started the entire tirade against those of us who want it on Steam. My post was spot on topic.

Dude, seriously. Seriously?!

-_-

If you don't want to get a game, just because it comes out on a disc, like MOST other media, then it's your own nose being cut off to spite your face. How can you be so opinionated that you can't even see a 100% logically sound argument that's right in front of you?! If you don't really want the game, why are you even getting so worked up about it?

So basically, you weren't planning on buying the game anyway? Then you're a troll.

If you were planning on getting it, you're not getting it anymore because it's not on Steam. Really? Lol... I have no words for how ridiculous that it. I can't even have a casual laugh about it, that's how backwards that argument is.

/awaiting replay about how BF3 coming out on a disc is affecting their human rights and freedom

You're deliberately missing my point here. There is a chance I might get the game. If there's nothing else I want, I might end up getting the game. EVerything doesn't have to be either you get it or you don't. If I get it, it's not going to be for the multiplayer, because it's not my type of multiplayer game. It's going to be for singleplayer.

Also, maybe you should take a long, hard look at your backwards argument. You're getting worked up because I prefer my games on a certain platform and won't get it if it's not available there? Really? You're blowing the issue way out of proportion, yet you're telling me I'm using backwards logic?

The last games I bought that came on disks were The Witcher 2, Prey and Dungeon Siege 3.
Witcher 2 because I wanted all the things that came with the Premium Edition. Prey because I heard you could activate the key on Steam and add it to your steam library. Dungeon Siege 3 because it's a Steam game and saved me having to download the entire thing from Steam.

Honestly, what don't you get? Some people like their games all in one place, some don't mind. Those of us who want it all in one place are willing to give them a skip if we can't get them there. It's not that hard to comprehend. The only one who's full of shit here is you, who can't accept a mere matter of difference in opinio and preference.

You're going on as if we're going to miss the the second coming if we don't buy the game.

PS: We're not. It's only another game.

 

[wheunis]

Ogbuzz: all taken in stride, no worries.

Sadly, that disc was just the last in a long line of **** I have endured on the discs saga.
Scratched, dropped accidentally, lost, and heck... one of my older collectible discs got chewed up into hundreds of pieces by a drive that fizzed.

My main problem is not in essence the disk. It is the fact that 99% of the time, once the disc is damaged or lost or chewed... your game (or whatever content was on it) is now lost.
In some cases, it will even be downright impossible to replace.

With digital, at least I know my games are always there. My whole house can burn to the ground (prays that murphy takes a week leave), but it will still be there.

I might change that viewpoint if the game/content in question is so fantastical that it will forever change the way I breathe...
But no game has ever really come quite that close.

Yes, I want to play BF3.
Not as much as others... And tbh, I won't be any poorer if I miss out for [insert period of time] or for that matter never.