The MyGaming Steam Community giveaways complaints and meta-discussion thread

Wyzak said:
Again, you are welcome to ask me in a PM. Eugene was in a position of power and was tasked by the community to act on their behalf. While he was wearing the hat of moderator his actions should be transparent to the community that he represents. My position is dissimilar, and I'd like to spare the guys who are subscribed to this thread from having to read your conversation with me.
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You keep using that word. The rules were not locked away in a vault somewhere and they were pretty clear, your earlier nit-picking about semantics notwithstanding. If you don't like the rules, don't play the game.

MOnk said:
Lol when did the MyGaming Steam community group get co-opted by the elite?

If you don't want 'the unworthy' to participate in your give-aways then make another group for that rather than walling off a steam group that should be any to all member of the myg community.
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I'm pretty fed-up with being called names and shat on just because I dare to be an active member when there is not an activity comp running. It is just the whole "TK should be excluded from the competitions" hissy-fits by non-active members all over again. I find it tiring and immature.

Like AJ said a few pages ago:

AlphaJohn said:
OK that is about as much as I can take... (And here I thought it was over)

Cheers.
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Plus one. Have fun.
 
Wyzak said:
Again, you are welcome to ask me in a PM. Eugene was in a position of power and was tasked by the community to act on their behalf. While he was wearing the hat of moderator his actions should be transparent to the community that he represents. My position is dissimilar, and I'd like to spare the guys who are subscribed to this thread from having to read your conversation with me.
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Eugene's actions were transparent. There were clear rules for participation in the GAs. When they weren't followed, people got removed. That's the most transparent way of moderating in the world.

Look, I know you like stirring up controversy everywhere you go. You seem to like creating rifts and stirring up fights where you find yourself right in the middle of it and paint yourself as the warrior of justice. "Voice for the voiceless"? Don't make me laugh. Those people aren't voiceless. They can come speak for themselves. You know, on the forums they were supposed to be contributing to as stipulated in the rules? Nothing is stopping them from posting here and they definitely don't need you of all people to fight on their behalf.

There is no conspiracy. There is no elite. Eugene and Wyvern did everything they did because they wanted to benefit the community. Now for the love of god, get over it and stop being such a massive (sorry Jan) asshole. If you have any respect for this community and GA group, you'll stop trying to cause drama and go on your merry way. But I suspect you won't, because stirring up drama and controversy is just what you do.
 
It appears my comments were ill informed and somewhat rash, my apologies. I find it rather unfortunate that has lead to creating a thread on this topic with my post as the OP. :(

Hey at least getting kicked got me back here, or at least reminded me to pop back in. :)
 
MOnk said:
It appears my comments were ill informed and somewhat rash, my apologies. I find it rather unfortunate that has lead to creating a thread on this topic with my post as the OP. :(

Hey at least getting kicked got me back here, or at least reminded me to pop back in. :)
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This thread was created to split the negativity off from what was meant to be a fairly positive place on the forum, and I didn't have a lot of time to sift through all the related posts.

I have now gone back and moved out everything related to "The Reaping" from dampi's original question about what happened.

EDIT: In other words, you're no longer the OP :)
 
In closing I'd like to say that I'm very unhappy about the way a certain member has handled this entire thing. Eugene and Wyvern have contributed a lot of value to these forums in their time here. Eugene has never done anything that was not done for the betterment of the forum. That's why this group was created in the first place! If you want to paint out Eugene and Wyvern as monsters, that's your prerogative, but maybe have a look at what you have contributed over the years. Drama and altercation just about sums it up. You just stir up trouble for the fun of it, pretending that you want to do so 'for the better good'. Man, I've got a pretty colorful history here but I think my 'accomplishments' are dwarfed by yours. I've never managed to topple something that adds as much value to the community as the GAs, yet that's exactly what you did.

Maybe you need to stop 'fighting the good fight' for those who can't be arsed to come defend themselves in person and have a good long look at yourself. Ask yourself what you're trying to achieve here and if you're really the Che Geuvarra you've painted yourself as. Because you seem to be the only one who thinks you're some kind of freedom fighter fighting the good fight against oppression.

And with that I close my case. I'll shush and go sit in the corner now. Just had to get that off my chest because I really like Eugene and I feel that how this person treated him and Wyvern thus far has been very unfair.
 
Eugene said:
Here are the revised rules for the giveaway group.

Feedback and suggestions about the rules are welcome as always. Complaining about them after they've been applied is not.

Proposed new rules and guidelines

These giveaways are being done by MyGaming community members, for fellow members that contribute in a positive way to the MyGaming forum, and as such we will show NO leniency to spammers or people who do not follow the rules as decided by the community. These giveaways are for long standing, active members of the MyGaming.co.za forums only.

You need to be an active member with at least 100 post and be registered for no less than two months to be eligible to join the group, which will enable you to enter the giveaways.

If you are only active during activity contests you will not be eligible to join the group.

If you want to join the MyGaming Community Steam group, post a link to your Steam profile in this thread. It will look something like this: http://steamcommunity.com/id/metalsoup/
Do not expect the group officers to go searching for your profile with just a username.

If you want to create giveaways for the group, please make them exclusive to members of the MyGaming community group

Rules to stay in the group:

  1. You must make at least twenty decent posts per month during the last two months.
  2. Spam and nonsense posts don't count.
  3. Posts in giveaway and competition threads don't count.
  4. Trolls and trouble stirrers anywhere on the forum or in the Steam group will not be tolerated.
  5. If there is a dispute, you will take it up privately with the Steam group officers. If a satisfactory resolution can not be reached, a MyGaming administrator may be requested to act as a mediator.

Users who do not comply with all of these rules will be removed from the group by the Steam Community officers, until they do comply and reapply for membership.

If you notice a member of the group that you believe does not comply with these rules, please report them to one of the group officers.
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For the most part they look good, but surely a single warning is not too much to ask? I'm not even suggesting that a warning should be renewed after being applied once, but things happen, people get busy and then may be away from the forum for a while at a time. Isn't it fair to give someone at least one opportunity to explain themselves?
 
StaggerLee said:
For the most part they look good, but surely a single warning is not too much to ask? I'm not even suggesting that a warning should be renewed after being applied once, but things happen, people get busy and then may be away from the forum for a while at a time. Isn't it fair to give someone at least one opportunity to explain themselves?
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If they can explain themselves, adding them back to the group is really easy. They probably will get some kind of warning though, or at least a mention, like [MENTION=9032]StaggerLee[/MENTION] is about to be kicked for being a big baby. :p
 
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Eugene said:
If they can explain themselves, adding them back to the group is really easy. They probably will get some kind of warning though, or at least a mention, like [MENTION=9032]StaggerLee[/MENTION] is about to be kicked for being a big baby. :p
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Haha! I'm not that big, the house in the background of my picture is just really far away...

A mention is sufficient. Considering that we get notifications now, I'd say it's as good a s PM. Thanks for including that.
 
The_Imp_ZA said:
[MENTION=17]Eugene[/MENTION] I like them.

I don't think Wyzak will though. :p
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If Wyzak has got a legitimate concern, he is welcome to raise it with any of the Steamgift MG Officers. but he will not be allowed to derail the group with another wild tirade.
 
I'll deal with Wyzak. We understand each other. :)

So Wyzak, if you have any concerns in the future you are welcome to contact me.
 
Eugene said:
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That looks good Eugene.

Since this is the "MyGaming Steam Community giveaway" thread, I'm not sure if this should be added, however a suggestion is to add something along the following lines:

There are 2 Steam MyG groups; one group which anyone can be invited to (MyGaming.co.za), and another specifically for the giveaways/active members (MyGaming Community). If you are so inclined, when you post a GA you can decide if only 1 or both groups can enter the GA. That is your decision as the person giving away the game.

That way someone can include the broader community in a GA if they feel like it; this would just add some clarity perhaps.
 
StaggerLee said:
For the most part they look good, but surely a single warning is not too much to ask? I'm not even suggesting that a warning should be renewed after being applied once, but things happen, people get busy and then may be away from the forum for a while at a time. Isn't it fair to give someone at least one opportunity to explain themselves?
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I agree about the warning.

If you want to create giveaways for the group, please make them exclusive to members of the MyGaming community group
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Is that a rule or a suggestion? I suggest moving all of the rules and placing them under the "Rules to stay in the group" category.

Also I think the "trouble stirrers" part is open to interpretation and subjective. Who will decide when somebody is stirring? Is it Jan, is it a single admin, or does it require majority vote from the admins?
 
Blazzok said:
That looks good Eugene.

Since this is the "MyGaming Steam Community giveaway" thread, I'm not sure if this should be added, however a suggestion is to add something along the following lines:

There are 2 Steam MyG groups; one group which anyone can be invited to (MyGaming.co.za), and another specifically for the giveaways/active members (MyGaming Community). If you are so inclined, when you post a GA you can decide if only 1 or both groups can enter the GA. That is your decision as the person giving away the game.

That way someone can include the broader community in a GA if they feel like it; this would just add some clarity perhaps.
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That's pretty good.
 
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