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GoG FTW!!!!

I think i will support GreenManGaming. GOG price is significantly higher that GMG. But in terms of underlying "vendor", i guess it will have to be GOG over STEAM.

Going to get a solid (hard) copy, over. :)
Probably from Takealot. Don't want to do a massive download, unless I get it for much cheaper through a digital download.

i'm now entirely digital in my acquisition methods :) I am guaranteed to lose the CD within a week, so i prefer the luxury of being able to re-download the game at any point. pricing is pretty much on par for this game.
 
[MENTION=532]Hiro[/MENTION], before you go for GMG, just read this article, it seems like there is some ugliness going on:

http://www.lazygamer.net/pc-gaming/theres-so-much-drama-over-those-cheap-witcher-3-download-codes/

CDPR is discouraging people from buying the codes from GMG.

check out this article, mainly the portion at the end where they got statement from GMG CEO :

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-05-06-the-witcher-3-pc-is-32-49-at-green-man-gaming

so basically, seems like they wanted to buy a bulk set of keys form GOG so that they could offer them at a good price on GMG. but GOG/CD-Projekt were a tad greedy and wanted to maximize their revenue. i think their statement was issued out of "bitterness" that GMG is undercutting their prices (legitimately)
 
check out this article, mainly the portion at the end where they got statement from GMG CEO :

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-05-06-the-witcher-3-pc-is-32-49-at-green-man-gaming

so basically, seems like they wanted to buy a bulk set of keys form GOG so that they could offer them at a good price on GMG. but GOG/CD-Projekt were a tad greedy and wanted to maximize their revenue. i think their statement was issued out of "bitterness" that GMG is undercutting their prices (legitimately)

Ja, it looks like it has gotten a bit messy there. This quote says it all:

"We believe that CDPR's desire to support their own platform by working with retail outlets that would not conflict with their own is greater than that of meeting the demands of their audience"

Ouch.
 
[MENTION=9032]StaggerLee[/MENTION]

Actually there's a lot of misinformation going on, plus language barriers. CDPR never said anything negative towards GMG. All they said were that they never authorized keys for them to sell.

CDPR had discussion with GMG, and what I'm assuming went down was that GMG wanted to sell some of the keys at a loss, using their promo codes, thus undercutting GOG and every other site that sells TW3 keys. CDPR said no, so GMG went and sourced keys from another place. They list Namco on their site, so they probably bought retail copies in bulk, as Namco is the European partner for retail copies, hence why they also say that the codes will only become available on launch day. They'll just take the GOG codes out the box, and send those to their buyers.

Which makes GMG hypocrites. That's the sort of behavior that authorized key resellers should not engage in. It's not illegal, but it's going against what CDPR wanted, and will no doubt ruin the relationship between them for future titles. It makes GMG no different to other unauthorized sellers, like G2A. CDPR, however, are receiving revenue from these sales, although not directly. Namco is probably the ones being paid, who'll in turn pay CDPR their cut, which will be significantly less than if people bought directly from GOG.

To use an analogy, let's say you want to buy some oranges from Woolworths. Woolworths asks you nicely not to sell them to anyone, only eat them yourself. So you say no, and buy some from Fruit and Veg instead. You sell at a loss, but everyone buys from you instead of Woolworths. Obviously you've now pissed off Woolworths, but the consumer doesn't care, because they've just saved money.

There is one caveat though. If Namco sold GOG codes to GMG directly, and not retail copies, they would be in violation of their agreement with CDPR, as it states that they can only sell retail copies. No doubt CDPR have bought some keys from GMG, to see where they came from. They'd have every right to deactivate them if this went down, or if they were sourced from a region where games are a lot cheaper, like Russia.

No one is really in the wrong here, but GMG are playing a dangerous game. They were not authorized to sell codes, so they shouldn't be.
 
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Actually there's a lot of misinformation going on, plus language barriers. CDPR never said anything negative towards GMG. All they said were that they never authorized keys for them to sell.

CDPR had discussion with GMG, and what I'm assuming went down was that GMG wanted to sell some of the keys at a loss, using their promo codes..... But the consumer doesn't care, because they've just saved money.

in a nutshell. GMG have passed savings and discounts to the consumer. CDPR have held out for higher profits (as they are entirely entitled do to). as a consumer, i will go where the best legit deal is :)
 
i am avoiding all trailers! i want the experience to be fresh.

is anybody else going to replay Witcher 2 before kicking off Witcher 3 ?

Just finished my playthrough of TW1, going to start TW2 later. None of our weapons or armour in TW2 are going to import though, and decisions don't matter that much. I know some spoilers from the early game, like the first 5 hours, thanks to a translation of that one really long Russian video. They write away a lot of the decisions form TW2. If you get the tattoo in TW2 though, that will import, which is fantastic! No ragrets!

In all the versions there's also a character you'll speak to to set the world state and your choices from the previous games, if you don't import.

I watched that ps4 trailer and wow it looks good.

Whoops, forgot to post it. No spoilers either.

For the people who didn't see it:


 
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[MENTION=9032]StaggerLee[/MENTION]

Actually there's a lot of misinformation going on, plus language barriers. CDPR never said anything negative towards GMG. All they said were that they never authorized keys for them to sell.

CDPR had discussion with GMG, and what I'm assuming went down was that GMG wanted to sell some of the keys at a loss, using their promo codes, thus undercutting GOG and every other site that sells TW3 keys. CDPR said no, so GMG went and sourced keys from another place. They list Namco on their site, so they probably bought retail copies in bulk, as Namco is the European partner for retail copies, hence why they also say that the codes will only become available on launch day. They'll just take the GOG codes out the box, and send those to their buyers.

Which makes GMG hypocrites. That's the sort of behavior that authorized key resellers should not engage in. It's not illegal, but it's going against what CDPR wanted, and will no doubt ruin the relationship between them for future titles. It makes GMG no different to other unauthorized sellers, like G2A. CDPR, however, are receiving revenue from these sales, although not directly. Namco is probably the ones being paid, who'll in turn pay CDPR their cut, which will be significantly less than if people bought directly from GOG.

To use an analogy, let's say you want to buy some oranges from Woolworths. Woolworths asks you nicely not to sell them to anyone, only eat them yourself. So you say no, and buy some from Fruit and Veg instead. You sell at a loss, but everyone buys from you instead of Woolworths. Obviously you've now pissed off Woolworths, but the consumer doesn't care, because they've just saved money.

There is one caveat though. If Namco sold GOG codes to GMG directly, and not retail copies, they would be in violation of their agreement with CDPR, as it states that they can only sell retail copies. No doubt CDPR have bought some keys from GMG, to see where they came from. They'd have every right to deactivate them if this went down, or if they were sourced from a region where games are a lot cheaper, like Russia.

No one is really in the wrong here, but GMG are playing a dangerous game. They were not authorized to sell codes, so they shouldn't be.

I don't really feel strongly for or against either one, and the only negativity that I mentioned came from GMG's side.

It seems most likely that what you described is correct, that GMG bought retail codes in bulk from the distributor. I can't imagine that it's illegal though, even if it's a bit underhanded. The only reason that I can think of that CDPR would have for not giving the keys to online retailers other than GoG and Steam is to derive the maximum amount of profit from online sales, which is probably a bit short-sighted, but that's business for you.

It's definitely going to sour the relationship with GMG in future, and I'll bet that CDPR put stronger re-selling clauses into their contracts e.g. "not for resale via digital online distribution methods". In fact, if that line is not in their T&Cs for retail copies, they have overlooked a major problem where people could resell their GoG keys. Not that they can stop them anyway.

It's a bit of a weird situation and I would like to hear what is really going on from both sides.
 
in a nutshell. GMG have passed savings and discounts to the consumer. CDPR have held out for higher profits (as they are entirely entitled do to). as a consumer, i will go where the best legit deal is :)

This is my view too.

GMG are selling these games at a loss to themselves. GMG regularly sells preorders at prices much cheaper than elsewhere. They're not doing anything illegal, they're simply undercutting the competition. That's never been a crime.

I'm sticking with the idea that it's just sour grapes from CDPR.
 
This is my view too.

GMG are selling these games at a loss to themselves. GMG regularly sells preorders at prices much cheaper than elsewhere. They're not doing anything illegal, they're simply undercutting the competition. That's never been a crime.

I'm sticking with the idea that it's just sour grapes from CDPR.

Who said that GMG are selling them at a loss?

Sure, their margin is probably tiny, it's conceivable that they are selling the copies at cost to piss off CDPR, but I doubt they are selling it at a loss. They probably bought bulk retail copies at wholesale prices just like any other re-seller such as BT games, Takealot, Amazon etc.

It probably is just sour grapes, but I wouldn't be surprised if this contravenes the conditions of someone's distribution deal.
 
On a change of topic, I just got into the Galaxy Beta. It's not bad, still has a way to go though.

I have no friends on there. Need to add you guys. :p
 
On a change of topic, I just got into the Galaxy Beta. It's not bad, still has a way to go though.

I have no friends on there. Need to add you guys. :p

how long did they take to email you back? I put my address into Galaxy opt-in this morning but no reply yet
 
how long did they take to email you back? I put my address into Galaxy opt-in this morning but no reply yet

Took me about two days to get an email. Just keep on doing it. I must have requested an invite about 5 times before I got the email.

I tried to get it to detect my Witcher 2 install from GOG, but because the installer I used was quite old, it wouldn't detect it.

EDIT: Nevermind, the option from the main menu won't detect it, but if you go to the individual game, and click on the drop down arrow, the option there will pick it up. Strange.

EDIT2: My version was apparently out of date. It's downloading a 175mb update. I'm liking this already. :D
 
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Who said that GMG are selling them at a loss?

Sure, their margin is probably tiny, it's conceivable that they are selling the copies at cost to piss off CDPR, but I doubt they are selling it at a loss. They probably bought bulk retail copies at wholesale prices just like any other re-seller such as BT games, Takealot, Amazon etc.

It probably is just sour grapes, but I wouldn't be surprised if this contravenes the conditions of someone's distribution deal.

Don't underestimate how important traffic is to an online retailer. Sell x amount of copies at a loss and the rest at normal prices. As long as people come to your store.

GMG regularly sells preorders for much lower than $60. I doubt they're contravening any distribution deals if they've been doing this for so long.
 
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