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Well now we have proven that we can beat the Allblacks and that first 0 minutes of rugby was the best i have seen all year from the Boks Well done boys. Handre pollard is the future for our number 10's we finally have our dan carter. Also Hougie actually played rugby again and i like it :D we have a chance of a final and maybe even a WC next year if a Ref doesn't decide our fate again.

An shoosh with your liverpool Man u is at least up in 4th again :D something is happening

And WTH is going on in the F1, Alonso leaving, Vettel leaving and Hamilton now 10 points Clear :(
 
AT We wont speak of the F1, its bad enough that I will have to support Ferrari next year.

Did you also get the mail I sent with Jules Bianchi's crash? It was horrific.
 
AT We wont speak of the F1, its bad enough that I will have to support Ferrari next year.

Did you also get the mail I sent with Jules Bianchi's crash? It was horrific.

Yeah got it but haven't read it things are touch and go at home atm :( (and i will never support Ferrari i'd rather be a ricardo supporter then :(

It's still early days. ManU will sink! :o

Don't count your chickens before they hatch
 
AT -

While the motorsport worlds prays for Jules Bianchi, many people are still wondering what exactly happened in Suzuka. Despite the wise decision of the FIA not to publish any video of the crash, fan videos have emerged on Youtube showing what happened to Bianchi. A detailed analysis of one of the first of such videos allows us to get some insight as to why Jules Bianchi is in such bad shape.
What happened ?
While race marshals were recovering Adrian Sutil’s car on the outside of turn 7 on Lap 42, Jules Bianchi lost control of his car going through the same corner. The back stepped out, and Jules attempted to correct. However, as is so easily done in tricky conditions, he over corrected and slid into the back of what seems to be a CAT 910H used to recover the stranded car. The way Bianchi’s car hit the vehicle meant that he went underneath it, and the upper part of his Marussia was completely destroyed.
In detail
Jules Bianchi’s Marussia went into the back of the recovery vehicle. The vehicle used at this part of the circuit, probably a CAT 910H, weighs in at approximately 5-6 tons and is made of heavy-duty steel to withstand years of abuse. The ground-clearance of this vehicle is about the same as the height of the chassis in front of the cockpit, which means that there was nothing to stop Bianchi’s car from sliding under the CAT.

The Marussia went so far, that it lifted the heavy recovery vehicle ( the 5t vehicle was lifted by ~0,5m).
Photos taken after the crash show that the roll hoop was completely destroyed when it hit the recovery vehicle at an approximate angle of 45°, and the video suggests that Jules Bianchi’s helmet hit the vehicle first. This probably explains why he is so badly injured.
However, the fact that the crane’s centre of gravity was slightly off balance due to carrying the crashed Sauber of Adrian Sutil may be the reason Jules is still alive. If the crane was unladen, its rear may not have jumped as high as it did, and may have resulted in an even more serious impact to Jules helmet.
Motorsport Modeller - The green line and arrows show the direction of the impact
Motorsport Modeller – The green line and arrows show the direction of the impact
The video allows us to estimate that Bianchi’s speed before the impact was rather low (~65 kph / ~40 mph) and shows that what made this crash so heavy is the presence of the recovery vehicle. With history showing that F1 has come close to incidents like this in the past (think Brazil 2003, Europe 2007), the sport has run out of luck on this occasion and the now years-long debate on whether closed cockpits are a sensible road forward is sure to rage on.
http://formulaspy.com/features/jules-bianchis-crash-detailed-analysis-6556
 
oh vok nee.... haibo! eish!

I suppose question will obviously be raised. Though I don't believe the recovery vehicle or team was really in the wrong, they did things like they always do.

The track wasn't affected by debris so there was no need for a safety car. But what could be argued is with the massive downpours of the rain, why was the race not stopped?!
 
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oh vok nee.... haibo! eish!

I suppose question will obviously be raised. Though I don't believe the recovery vehicle or team was really in the wrong, they did things like they always do.

The track wasn't affected by debris so there was no need for a safety car. But what could be argued is with the massive downpours of the rain, why was the race not stopped?!

As you'll see in the vid they are actually waving green flags, those should have been yellow...so big fuck up there.

Thanx Joker damn that is a hectic crash i think that thing was lifted more than just 5cm

Yip insane crash, Hopefully the guy pulls through.
 
Its the first accident since Senna's that has me worried. I was worried even before the video was leaked. And if you look carefully on the net you fill find some pictures of the car afterwards - be warned there are a lot of fakes out there. The true ones will be the ones without the rollbar on it. Basically the top half and one side of the car was scrapped.
http://i.imgur.com/K0TJPf6.gif

I still cant look at the video. If he had hit that trailer with the front end of the car instead of the sides, he would have been much better off. But the speculation is that thanks to the force of the hit, sutil's car unbalancing the tractor, that he didnt his head at full force that it was only a glancing blow - but at 70km/h a glancing blow to the head can still be fatal.

http://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/2ig1ga/
 
Before the reform frenzy starts
OCTOBER 7, 2014 / GARY HARTSTEIN
We’re just over 48 hours since Jules’ accident. Still hoping and praying for a good outcome. And of course, by now, the dust is settling, and discourse becomes less emotional, less intense, and more reasoned. I thought I’d take advantage of this period of relative calm to put a few thoughts out there.

The first thing I want to point out is that the three most severe accidents we’ve had since 1994 have all occurred through mechanisms that are not easily predictable. I’ll not go so far as to use the expression “freak accidents”, but being hit in the head with an 800 gm spring, driving into the lifting tailgate of a lorry, or aquaplaning into the exact spot a recovery unit is working are not your standard scenarios.

I say this because we need to have a bit of perspective here. Virtually every weekend we see, often with a quiet “ho hum”, accidents that in a not distant past would no doubt have been fatal. Basically, the things that used to kill and maim drivers have almost been engineered out of the system. Fire? (Williamson, Courage, Bandini to name a few)? We just don’t see it anymore (yes we had a few, but none with any significant consequences). Frontal collisions? (Rindt) We shrug off the most spectacular. Side impacts (Senna)? Ehhhhh… Flying rollovers? Shaken, but not stirred.

Not only do we almost have to invent bizarre ways to get hurt, but when someone DOES fall victim to an unusual accident, the governing body has shown itself fairly adept at acting appropriately. Felipe’s accident? Zylon visor reinforcements. Etc etc.

Jules’ accident was INCREDIBLY violent. It is a miracle he is alive, purely and simply. And this is a testimony to the entire system. Where should we look if we want to find out if there actually IS anything to change?

To start with, I’ll hearken back to one of my pet peeves.

Those of you who saw the video no doubt were impressed by just how fast that Marussia was winging it as it streaked through the runoff area into the JCB. I surely was. And I was all the more impressed that:

Jules was certainly aware of the risk at that point of aquaplaning (and was no doubt told of SUT’s off)
there were double yellow flags displayed at one, and possibly two, upstream marshal posts.
For the sake of my sanity, I’ll point out again that double yellows mean that the track might be obstructed, that there are HUMAN BEINGS WORKING trackside of the Armco, and to BE PREPARED TO STOP.

I’ve been a passenger in an F1 car, and can confirm that the brakes are phenomenal. That said, given the water on the circuit, given the loading on the car through corners 6 and 7, and given the speed of that Marussia, it is indisputable that Jules carried MUCH TOO MUCH speed into that corner. By definition. He is instructed (by the flags) to slow enough to be able to stop, yet he was fast enough to aquaplane. Those are mutually exclusive options. Period.

I’ve been saying since 2010 that flag discipline is deteriorating, and it’s deteriorating fast. And no one is making properly vigorous efforts to re-establish it.

At every F1 drivers briefing, the drivers hound Charlie for a number – “how fast can i go under yellows?” or “how fast under double yellows?”. Or even, “will I be penalised if I do 0.2 sec less than the last time thru that sector…”

THEY’RE MISSING THE POINT. AND BECAUSE WE’RE NOT INSISTING ENOUGH ON THE RIGHT ANSWER, BAD THINGS HAPPEN.

The point is that the speed that’s appropriate under double yellows is variable. It’s not a speed limit, it’s a warning. Just ahead you might have nowhere to go. Or, just ahead someone’s uncle, brother, father is pushing one of your colleague’s cars off the circuit (remember the marshal whose legs you broke in Monaco Pastor? When you kept your foot in it through double yellows into Casino? I do).

I bet that the “appropriate” speed through T6-7 Sunday was probably something like 80-100 km/h – something like pit lane speed. Had drivers done that, the absurdity would have rapidly become apparent, and race control would have had little choice but to deploy the SC.

Disrespect for flag discipline is not a minor issue. It kills and injures people. If flags are respected, things get remarkably safer. If these flags had been respected, it is hard to imagine this accident happening, at least with this kind of energy.

Before we start changing everything, wrapping JCB’s in tech pro, putting SC’s out every time someone’s in the armco, let’s correctly apply the spectacularly effective safety system already in place. And let’s start by making sure drivers actually respect the SPIRIT (“be prepared to stop”) and not the LETTER (“how many tenths down do I have to be to not get a stop-go penalty?”) of the safety regulations.

Oh and one last thing: please Jules, get better fast.

http://formerf1doc.wordpress.com/2014/10/07/2271/
 
And its officially bad news:

Bianchi’s injuries: ‘Diffuse Axonal Injury’
Posted by: Thomas Maher October 7, 2014


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Marussia have released a statement on the condition of Jules Bianchi. The Frenchman has suffered a diffuse axonal injury.The statement simply reads:
The following statement is provided by the family of Jules Bianchi, in conjunction with the Mie General Medical Center, and is distributed on their behalf by the Marussia F1 Team.
“This is a very difficult time for our family, but the messages of support and affection for Jules from all over the world have been a source of great comfort to us. We would like to express our sincere appreciation.
Jules remains in the Intensive Care Unit of the Mie General Medical Center in Yokkaichi. He has suffered a diffuse axonal injury and is in a critical but stable condition. The medical professionals at the hospital are providing the very best treatment and care and we are grateful for everything they have done for Jules since his accident.
We are also grateful for the presence of Professor Gerard Saillant, President of the FIA Medical Commission, and Professor Alessandro Frati, Neurosurgeon of the University of Rome La Sapienza, who has travelled to Japan at the request of Scuderia Ferrari. They arrived at the hospital today and met with the medical personnel responsible for Jules’ treatment, in order to be fully informed of his clinical status so that they are able to advise the family. Professors Saillant and Frati acknowledge the excellent care being provided by the Mie General Medical Center and would like to thank their Japanese colleagues.
The hospital will continue to monitor and treat Jules and further medical updates will be provided when appropriate.”
DAI is the result of traumatic shearing forces that occur when the head is rapidly accelerated or decelerated, as may occur in auto accidents, falls, and assaults. It usually results from rotational forces or severe deceleration. Vehicle accidents are the most frequent cause of DAI.
The outcome is frequently coma, with over 90% of patients with severe DAI never regaining consciousness. Those who do wake up often remain significantly impaired. [Source]
http://formulaspy.com/news/formula-1-news/bianchis-injuries-diffuse-axonal-injury-6614
 
Man the state of ref's these days and then they wonder why fans get worked up and people like Piet van Zyl is born :p
 
nog een dom poes...

sad thing is this guy might end up blowing for us if the irb's selection for ref's keeps going at it's current rate
 
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