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danielbaard

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What do you guys think of Blizzard's move on making the single player online as well as the multiplayer? I personally disagree with it, and believe that it's a large step backwards for online gaming. I hope it doesn't become a fad.
 
Maybe you guys didn't support the forefathers of it so religiously they might have thought twice about trying it. However on the other hand it is a change, it will come and will be implemented. It always has been a matter of time.

Believe me if it was up to blizzard we'd be all having 1st class networks/infrastructures, but it isn't. Nor can't it be expected of them to lag behind with those who can't keep up. That glass of wine has been poured by all those who kept the wrong people in power and is still keeping them there.

Steam forces you to be online even if it has an offline ability you cant be forever offline. That is much less fail than Ubisoft. Just because Ubisoft is retarded doesn't mean all version will be. No, the spoilt lan bratz are now complaining because for the first time they actually feel that feeling that places them not first or second but last when it comes down to crunch.

...That is what I think.
 
blizzard is doing what they need to do to get sales ... no cracked copy of diablo 3 online yet so what they doing is definitely working
 
Pr⊕phet said:
Maybe you guys didn't support the forefathers of it so religiously they might have thought twice about trying it. However on the other hand it is a change, it will come and will be implemented. It always has been a matter of time.

Believe me if it was up to blizzard we'd be all having 1st class networks/infrastructures, but it isn't. Nor can't it be expected of them to lag behind with those who can't keep up. That glass of wine has been poured by all those who kept the wrong people in power and is still keeping them there.
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I've seen you post several times and it's almost like you believe that in a few years time we will have 10ms latency to the US and EU.

The reality is that communication is very close to its maximum speed that it will ever be able to reach. The new WACS cable has a fibre2fibre point2point latency of 138ms. It is on the best route between ZA and the UK. That is the lowest that your latency will ever be able to get between ZA and UK.

Will you be content if all games from now on require always on Internet only and your latency can only ever go as low as 150ms? I wouldn't be, and as such I hope that every company that tries to enforce this ends up with a lot of egg on their face.
 
Wyzak said:
I've seen you post several times and it's almost like you believe that in a few years time we will have 10ms latency to the US and EU.
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Please link where I said we will have 10ms like in eu or us.

Wyzak said:
The reality is that communication is very close to its maximum speed that it will ever be able to reach. The new WACS cable has a fibre2fibre point2point latency of 138ms. It is on the best route between ZA and the UK. That is the lowest that your latency will ever be able to get between ZA and UK.
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See above.

Wyzak said:
Will you be content if all games from now on require always on Internet only and your latency can only ever go as low as 150ms? I wouldn't be, and as such I hope that every company that tries to enforce this ends up with a lot of egg on their face.
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Relevance please? 80% of my games is just online.

Wyzak said:
Sadly recent experience has shown that not all companies care enough to provide local servers ;)
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RSA is hardly a star in the universe, much less a drop in the drinking water of USA.
 
Pr⊕phet said:
RSA is hardly a star in the universe, much less a drop in the drinking water of USA.
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Absolutely, clearly some believe that we need some special sort of treatment. If we can sell a gazillion copies of the game, then we have a big voice.....failing that it remains a squeak ;)
 
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Fivel said:
Absolutely, clearly some believe that we need some special sort of treatment. If we can sell a gazillion copies of the game, then we have a big voice.....failing that it remains a squeak ;)
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So because we don't have a big voice we should just keep quiet? Nice!

Please link where I said we will have 10ms like in eu or us.
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You are the one who is continuously blaming all of our Internet related issues on our government and local infrastructure. So tell me, what latency are you expecting? What difference will it make to your d3 latency if our local network is on par with South Koreas?

Relevance please? 80% of my games is just online.
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Are you playing all of them on international servers? Or are you playing on local servers?



IMO it will ruin the gaming industry in SA if we are forced to play online and the companies refuse to host local servers.

Just have a look at the amount of people complaining about the latency on sites like http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/diablo-iii/user-reviews?sort-by=date&num_items=100&page=1 or even the comments on http://mygaming.co.za/news/features/38130-diablo-iii-review-roundup.html

Do you think all of the people complaining are in countries outside of the US and EU?
 
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Wyzak said:
So because we don't have a big voice we should just keep quiet? Nice!
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Not at all, but also understanding the realities of big business would also be nice, sadly while I would love to believe that Blizzard cares about the xxx (you fill in the number here) of SA players, they don't. Protecting their considerable investment via online play is more likely to be higher on their agenda.
 
The reality is forcing people to play online has nothing to do with delivering a better game or service and everything to do with money and piracy.

The piracy reason is obvious, what is also obvious is that is has not stopped piracy. Pirates 1 - Blizzard 0 - Gamers 0. Blizzard still loses to pirates, gamers still lose progress due to being kicked out of the game, etc etc. And even first world countries experience connection issues! Its not just us.

The money reason is of course related to the auction house. Blizzard makes money from every sale, as we all know, which is also why modding is not allowed. Imagine if I made my own mod that gave me all of the uber equipment in the game - Blizzard would lose money. So they dont allow it. Same with any sort of cheating in single player.

The fact of the matter is, Blizzard deprived of us of choice for the sake of their own profits. It was not for our own good. Allowing offline or online play, as most companies do, is the better solution. But Blizzard is too greedy for that. So instead its online or nothing.

Well in my case it really is nothing, I have not bought D3, will not buy D3, and will be buying Torchlight 2 instead. I am voting with my wallet and hope the rest of you who are unhappy about the always on connection and lack of LAN play will do the same, although I think its already too late.
 
Thepoofbear said:
I agree that a local server for D3 would be amazing :D but who in this country cares enough to spend that kind of money?
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Numerous ISPs (MWEB, WA, etc) have offered their servers and bandwidth for hosting the game and have been in contact with Blizzard. But Blizzard didn't budge.
 
Fivel said:
Not at all, but also understanding the realities of big business would also be nice, sadly while I would love to believe that Blizzard cares about the xxx (you fill in the number here) of SA players, they don't. Protecting their considerable investment via online play is more likely to be higher on their agenda.
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A significant portion of their money will have to go to keep those dedicated servers running. There aren't subscriptions for Diablo, so they will have to make their money elsewhere (on a sustainable basis). Which is probably why they came up with the RMAH idea. At least that will provide a continuous income for them which will go some length to paying for the servers.

Let's face facts here, Blizzard may go to great lengths to combat piracy. But it's not like they are struggling financially... Instead of grudgingly accepting some pirated copies they have now gone and pissed off a significant amount of paying customers and also made some people look elsewhere. Time will tell if that was a good idea or if it will bite them in the ass.
 
Well they are suffering piracy anyway, so all this money spent on "Battle.net 2.0" was wasted. Plus it has caused them lost sales.
 
Ancalagon said:
Well in my case it really is nothing, I have not bought D3, will not buy D3, and will be buying Torchlight 2 instead. I am voting with my wallet and hope the rest of you who are unhappy about the always on connection and lack of LAN play will do the same, although I think its already too late.
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Couldn't agree with you more. I have also decided that I won't be buying D3, and I have already bought Torchlight II en mass(8 copies and counting now).

I wonder how Blizzard can justify selling D3 with all of its issues for R450 when you can pick up Torchlight II (with Torchlight I thrown in for free, and none of the D3 issues) for $20, or $15 (if you buy the 4-pack).

I will PM my email address to you and we can join up in Torchlight some time :)
 
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