AlienTaker
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I still like Vet i jsut don't like the car he is in atm 
but over all hes a good person. reminds me a little of senna back in the day.
but over all hes a good person. reminds me a little of senna back in the day.
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Wyvern
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I have to say it was a bit boring at times, but what a drive from Vettel yesterday. Kimi was disappointing, but at least Hamilton retired, both Mclarens retired. 2 safety cars = one for hulkenberg who decided not to leave massa space and one for a spectator on the track. Unfortunately Massa also had to retire. And Poor Kvyat lost out badly during the pitstops. Overall less overtaking on this track, which is why I really hate this track.
I thas also been confirmed that Maldonado will be driving for lotus again next year, but now it is a waiting game to see if the team will be there next year.
I thas also been confirmed that Maldonado will be driving for lotus again next year, but now it is a waiting game to see if the team will be there next year.
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FTFY. I wonder how long until they've spent more on carbon fibre that his Columbian Coffee Money brought in, and if Renault will have the same patience that LOTUS has had thusfar.
I thoroughly enjoyed the race. VET hap a perfect weekend, and while I'm disappointed that we didn't see a bit of a battle between him and RIC, hats of to VET.
Hulkenberg was a bit of a chop, but I did expect them to either chalk it up to a racing incident, or put the penalty on Massa. Glad it worked out this way, some common sense prevailing.
I enjoyed Button's sense of humour and stiff upper lip throughout. "Jenson, you need to manage the temperatures of the brakes better, and save fuel, so brake harder" "Is there anything else?"
And that track invader... Such a scary thing. A random walking on a typical track is scary, but coming around a corner at 200 km/h and seeing someone on a street circuit would've made some poo come out if it were me in the cockpit. I'd seriously have been too rattled to carry on.
Overall, very enjoyable race, IMO, and a welcome change to the Merc-train pace.
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Wyvern
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I just felt bad for a couple of the guys like Massa, Bottas and Kimi. But the race was boring for me just because there was so little overtaking on the track. But overall I have to admit that very happy feeling when Lewis first complained was awesome.
https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/status/645630957068910593
Funniest twitter from Lewis:
https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/status/645586778305503233
And then the reason why Lotus signed Maldanado:
Renault Sport's Cyril Abiteboul has revealed that Romain Grosjean will join the new Haas F1 Team next season.
Grosjean's contract with Lotus runs until the end of the 2015 season, but the Enstone squad are facing an uncertain future with Renault reportedly on the verge of taking the team over and running it as a works outfit next year.
The Frenchman, though, has been linked with a move to the American-based Haas F1 and he admitted during Thursday's press conference in Singapore that he had made a decision about his future, but is not yet ready to make it public.
However, Renault Sport F1 managing director Abiteboul got ahead of him as he confirmed to French channel Canal that Grosjean will join Haas F1 ahead of the 2016 season.
Haas F1 have previously admitted that they will opt for one of Esteban Gutierrez or Jean-Eric Vergne, who are both Ferrari reserves this year, and another experienced driver.
http://planetf1.com/news/grosjean-leaving-lotus-for-haas/
https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/status/645630957068910593
Funniest twitter from Lewis:
https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/status/645586778305503233
And then the reason why Lotus signed Maldanado:
Renault Sport's Cyril Abiteboul has revealed that Romain Grosjean will join the new Haas F1 Team next season.
Grosjean's contract with Lotus runs until the end of the 2015 season, but the Enstone squad are facing an uncertain future with Renault reportedly on the verge of taking the team over and running it as a works outfit next year.
The Frenchman, though, has been linked with a move to the American-based Haas F1 and he admitted during Thursday's press conference in Singapore that he had made a decision about his future, but is not yet ready to make it public.
However, Renault Sport F1 managing director Abiteboul got ahead of him as he confirmed to French channel Canal that Grosjean will join Haas F1 ahead of the 2016 season.
Haas F1 have previously admitted that they will opt for one of Esteban Gutierrez or Jean-Eric Vergne, who are both Ferrari reserves this year, and another experienced driver.
http://planetf1.com/news/grosjean-leaving-lotus-for-haas/
Wyvern
Khaleesi
PF1’s Conclusions From Singapore
Date published: September 21 2015
Sebastian Vettel was sublime in Singapore while his team boss had better start stretching…
Vettel's Lost None Of His Magic
A driver who can win fourth World titles in succession definitely has something special and that was evident under the lights at the Marina Bay circuit. Sebastian Vettel played a tactical game against his rivals as he raced to his third win of this season and his fourth in Singapore. On a circuit where every inch counts and one too close to the barriers can cost you dearly, Vettel turned back the clock to put in a flawless display.
Two (Maybe Even Three)- Team Race In 2016
Apparently Formula 1’s silly season is not reserved just for drivers as now that the Ferrari conundrum has been resolved, it is Red Bull’s engines that are dominating the headlines.
This weekend it was finally confirmed that Red Bull would be splitting with Renault at the end of this season while Mercedes power is out of reach after the head chap said no. So now it is Ferrari who are at the forefront of Red Bull’s plans. But only for two years as they could then link up with Volkswagen – potentially under the Audi brand – who may or may not actually be buying the team.
After this weekend's display from Ferrari, opting for Italian muscle could be a great move for Red Bull. There is no doubting that Ferrari have made massive improvements with their recent engine upgrades so much so that reports claim it allowed them to turn the wick up in Q3 in Singapore, something they could not do prior.
With two good teams using Ferrari power that bodes well for Formula 1 and finally, we’ll get to see what an Adrian Newey designed (or at least influenced) car can do with Ferrari power.
Mercedes Are Not Infallible
Toto Wolff insists Mercedes just got the set-up wrong in Singapore but on a weekend where Pirelli’s tyre pressure increase was adhered to by all – we assume – speculation that that was the real problem continues to grow.
Speed aside, though, the W06 that has up until now appeared bulletproof has shown signs of niggling reliability gremlins of late. While a coolant leak cost Nico Rosberg at Monza, a clamp was the undoing of Lewis Hamilton in Singapore. His first retirement of this season has been blamed on a clamp that failed resulting in a loss of boost pressure. Sometimes it really is the simple things.
Youthful Exuberance Counts
Max Verstappen's day began where many rivals' would have ended, a lap down. Failing to leave the grid, his STR10 was pushed back into the pits by the marshals where Toro Rosso fired it up and Max got going, albeit a lap down.
He used the first Safety Car to un-lap himself and from there charged up into the top ten. It was an impressive display and the perfect advert for never giving up.
His efforts, though, were then almost undone by his own team as Toro Rosso ordered him to hand over P8 to his team-mate Carlos Sainz. Max responded: "No!"
Toro Rosso have subsequently backtracked on that with Franz Tost conceding that if Carlos "wants to swap positions, he needs to be closer."
Blaming Maldonado Has Become A Habit
Even though he was in front of Jenson Button and Button drove into the rear of his E23, Pastor Maldonado still got the blame. Sorry Jense but this one is on you.
Yes Pastor is often responsible and yes his driving can be erratic. But any insurance company will tell you that if you rear-end someone, it is your fault.
If The Car Is Not Reliable, Even Slow Tracks Won't Help
McLaren believed Singapore would negate their engine losses but with their car that unreliable it didn't matter.
Honda have come in for a lot of stick for McLaren's troubles with many predicting that the team could secure a good result in Singapore given that engine power counts for little. That may be true but apparently reliability counts for a lot.
Both Fernando Alonso and Jenson Button had been inside the top ten, thanks to that Honda power, when they retired on Sunday night. And that was thanks to "gearbox problems."
Arrivabene Better Start Stretching
Ahead of his first season as Ferrari team boss, Maurizio Arrivabene predicted that the Scuderia would take two race wins before adding that "three would be perfect."
He went a step further, though, stated that for "four [wins] I will run without shoes 100km up the hill to Maranello!"
With Vettel having claimed the team's third in Singapore on Sunday and with six races still to be held this season, the Italian may yet take several steps further – literally.
Poor Lotus/Renault For 2016…
They lose Mercedes engines and swap to Renault power and now they lose Grosjean but keep Pastor.
Michelle Foster
http://planetf1.com/news/pf1s-conclusions-from-singapore/
Date published: September 21 2015
Sebastian Vettel was sublime in Singapore while his team boss had better start stretching…
Vettel's Lost None Of His Magic
A driver who can win fourth World titles in succession definitely has something special and that was evident under the lights at the Marina Bay circuit. Sebastian Vettel played a tactical game against his rivals as he raced to his third win of this season and his fourth in Singapore. On a circuit where every inch counts and one too close to the barriers can cost you dearly, Vettel turned back the clock to put in a flawless display.
Two (Maybe Even Three)- Team Race In 2016
Apparently Formula 1’s silly season is not reserved just for drivers as now that the Ferrari conundrum has been resolved, it is Red Bull’s engines that are dominating the headlines.
This weekend it was finally confirmed that Red Bull would be splitting with Renault at the end of this season while Mercedes power is out of reach after the head chap said no. So now it is Ferrari who are at the forefront of Red Bull’s plans. But only for two years as they could then link up with Volkswagen – potentially under the Audi brand – who may or may not actually be buying the team.
After this weekend's display from Ferrari, opting for Italian muscle could be a great move for Red Bull. There is no doubting that Ferrari have made massive improvements with their recent engine upgrades so much so that reports claim it allowed them to turn the wick up in Q3 in Singapore, something they could not do prior.
With two good teams using Ferrari power that bodes well for Formula 1 and finally, we’ll get to see what an Adrian Newey designed (or at least influenced) car can do with Ferrari power.
Mercedes Are Not Infallible
Toto Wolff insists Mercedes just got the set-up wrong in Singapore but on a weekend where Pirelli’s tyre pressure increase was adhered to by all – we assume – speculation that that was the real problem continues to grow.
Speed aside, though, the W06 that has up until now appeared bulletproof has shown signs of niggling reliability gremlins of late. While a coolant leak cost Nico Rosberg at Monza, a clamp was the undoing of Lewis Hamilton in Singapore. His first retirement of this season has been blamed on a clamp that failed resulting in a loss of boost pressure. Sometimes it really is the simple things.
Youthful Exuberance Counts
Max Verstappen's day began where many rivals' would have ended, a lap down. Failing to leave the grid, his STR10 was pushed back into the pits by the marshals where Toro Rosso fired it up and Max got going, albeit a lap down.
He used the first Safety Car to un-lap himself and from there charged up into the top ten. It was an impressive display and the perfect advert for never giving up.
His efforts, though, were then almost undone by his own team as Toro Rosso ordered him to hand over P8 to his team-mate Carlos Sainz. Max responded: "No!"
Toro Rosso have subsequently backtracked on that with Franz Tost conceding that if Carlos "wants to swap positions, he needs to be closer."
Blaming Maldonado Has Become A Habit
Even though he was in front of Jenson Button and Button drove into the rear of his E23, Pastor Maldonado still got the blame. Sorry Jense but this one is on you.
Yes Pastor is often responsible and yes his driving can be erratic. But any insurance company will tell you that if you rear-end someone, it is your fault.
If The Car Is Not Reliable, Even Slow Tracks Won't Help
McLaren believed Singapore would negate their engine losses but with their car that unreliable it didn't matter.
Honda have come in for a lot of stick for McLaren's troubles with many predicting that the team could secure a good result in Singapore given that engine power counts for little. That may be true but apparently reliability counts for a lot.
Both Fernando Alonso and Jenson Button had been inside the top ten, thanks to that Honda power, when they retired on Sunday night. And that was thanks to "gearbox problems."
Arrivabene Better Start Stretching
Ahead of his first season as Ferrari team boss, Maurizio Arrivabene predicted that the Scuderia would take two race wins before adding that "three would be perfect."
He went a step further, though, stated that for "four [wins] I will run without shoes 100km up the hill to Maranello!"
With Vettel having claimed the team's third in Singapore on Sunday and with six races still to be held this season, the Italian may yet take several steps further – literally.
Poor Lotus/Renault For 2016…
They lose Mercedes engines and swap to Renault power and now they lose Grosjean but keep Pastor.
Michelle Foster
http://planetf1.com/news/pf1s-conclusions-from-singapore/
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Bahahahahahahaha That's hilarious! He might've had the pace, but his car sure didn't.
Ugh. There's a reason F1 cars aren't insured when on track. DC said it best in the commentary, there is an implied trust between the drivers that they'll accelerate at pace, and MAL didn't. If you need to wait to make sure that the car ahead will actually pull away, you'll never get close enough to overtake. Should Jenson have been more careful? Yes. Is Maldonado exempt from blame? Definitely not.
Wyvern
Khaleesi
I totally agree, it was more Maldonado's fault since it looked like he slowed down. I just don't know how they allow him on track anymore.
Wyvern
Khaleesi
Singapore stats - Vettel surpasses Senna's win tally
SEBASTIAN VETTEL SINGAPORE
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All the talk heading into Singapore revolved around whether Lewis Hamilton could equal Ayrton Senna's tally of 41 race victories, but in the end it was the man who'd moved level with the great Brazilian earlier in the season who stole all the headlines.
A faultless performance at Marina Bay gave Sebastian Vettel his fourth win in Singapore, his third victory of the season and, on his 152nd race start, his 42nd career triumph.
All of that means that Vettel now takes sole ownership of third place on the all-time wins list, with just Michael Schumacher (91) and Alain Prost (51) ahead of him.
Having taken pole on Saturday, Vettel led all 61 laps in the race, but was denied a fifth career ‘grand slam’ (win, pole, fastest lap, every lap led) when Daniel Ricciardo snatched fastest lap away from him on the 52nd lap. Were it not for the Australian’s intervention, the German would have moved level with Alberto Ascari and Michael Schumacher in the grand slam stakes.
Vettel now has 42 career wins - one more than Ayrton Senna
Behind Vettel it was a real race of 'seconds' in Singapore - Ricciardo and Kimi Raikkonen scored their second podium finishes of the season (and their second ever podiums in Singapore), while for just the second time this year neither Lewis Hamilton nor Nico Rosberg finished on the rostrum.
The Silver Arrows’ surprisingly off-colour performance - which included Lewis Hamilton’s first retirement of 2015 - also helped ensure that the podium didn't feature any Mercedes-powered runner - again, for just the second time this year.
And to continue the ‘seconds’ theme further still, Sergio Perez scored his second seventh-place finish of the year and Toro Rosso scored just their second double points finish of the season.
Ricciardo and Raikkonen both scored their second podium finishes of the season - and their second career podium finishes in Singapore
Speaking of doubles, Vettel and Raikkonen gave Ferrari their first double podium finish since the 2013 Spanish Grand Prix, some 46 races ago. Back at Barcelona Fernando Alonso was on the podium for the Scuderia, but right now he’s struggling even to make it to the chequered flag for McLaren.
The Spaniard’s retirement in Singapore was his sixth DNF of the season, and to put that in perspective, that’s as many as he experienced in five whole seasons (or 96 races) with Ferrari between 2010 and 2014.
The only solace for Alonso is that he’s no less lucky than team mate Jenson Button, who retired at Marina Bay - the fourth time both McLarens have failed to take the chequered flag - and also has six DNFs to his name this year.
With Hamilton’s retirement, Vettel was able to move to within 50 points - or two wins - of the Briton in the drivers’ standings. Talk of a title run might be premature, but it’s worth noting that the winner of the Singapore Grand Prix has gone on to win the championship in each of the last four seasons. A good omen for Ferrari perhaps?
https://www.formula1.com/content/fo...ats---vettel-surpasses-senna-s-win-tally.html
[MENTION=1402]Avatar[/MENTION] - dunno if you watched the Qualies? But I knew P1 was Vettel's from the start when he was fast than Lewis. His first run was done on the soft tire and he was almost a second faster than Lewis on the super softs. Then that last flying lap in Q3 - it was so not needed, he had P1 with about .600 of a second and then he put his foot down. . . The fact that he qualified 1.5 seconds faster than lewis was the cherry on the cake.
SEBASTIAN VETTEL SINGAPORE
20 Sep 2015 Share
All the talk heading into Singapore revolved around whether Lewis Hamilton could equal Ayrton Senna's tally of 41 race victories, but in the end it was the man who'd moved level with the great Brazilian earlier in the season who stole all the headlines.
A faultless performance at Marina Bay gave Sebastian Vettel his fourth win in Singapore, his third victory of the season and, on his 152nd race start, his 42nd career triumph.
All of that means that Vettel now takes sole ownership of third place on the all-time wins list, with just Michael Schumacher (91) and Alain Prost (51) ahead of him.
Having taken pole on Saturday, Vettel led all 61 laps in the race, but was denied a fifth career ‘grand slam’ (win, pole, fastest lap, every lap led) when Daniel Ricciardo snatched fastest lap away from him on the 52nd lap. Were it not for the Australian’s intervention, the German would have moved level with Alberto Ascari and Michael Schumacher in the grand slam stakes.
Vettel now has 42 career wins - one more than Ayrton Senna
Behind Vettel it was a real race of 'seconds' in Singapore - Ricciardo and Kimi Raikkonen scored their second podium finishes of the season (and their second ever podiums in Singapore), while for just the second time this year neither Lewis Hamilton nor Nico Rosberg finished on the rostrum.
The Silver Arrows’ surprisingly off-colour performance - which included Lewis Hamilton’s first retirement of 2015 - also helped ensure that the podium didn't feature any Mercedes-powered runner - again, for just the second time this year.
And to continue the ‘seconds’ theme further still, Sergio Perez scored his second seventh-place finish of the year and Toro Rosso scored just their second double points finish of the season.
Ricciardo and Raikkonen both scored their second podium finishes of the season - and their second career podium finishes in Singapore
Speaking of doubles, Vettel and Raikkonen gave Ferrari their first double podium finish since the 2013 Spanish Grand Prix, some 46 races ago. Back at Barcelona Fernando Alonso was on the podium for the Scuderia, but right now he’s struggling even to make it to the chequered flag for McLaren.
The Spaniard’s retirement in Singapore was his sixth DNF of the season, and to put that in perspective, that’s as many as he experienced in five whole seasons (or 96 races) with Ferrari between 2010 and 2014.
The only solace for Alonso is that he’s no less lucky than team mate Jenson Button, who retired at Marina Bay - the fourth time both McLarens have failed to take the chequered flag - and also has six DNFs to his name this year.
With Hamilton’s retirement, Vettel was able to move to within 50 points - or two wins - of the Briton in the drivers’ standings. Talk of a title run might be premature, but it’s worth noting that the winner of the Singapore Grand Prix has gone on to win the championship in each of the last four seasons. A good omen for Ferrari perhaps?
https://www.formula1.com/content/fo...ats---vettel-surpasses-senna-s-win-tally.html
[MENTION=1402]Avatar[/MENTION] - dunno if you watched the Qualies? But I knew P1 was Vettel's from the start when he was fast than Lewis. His first run was done on the soft tire and he was almost a second faster than Lewis on the super softs. Then that last flying lap in Q3 - it was so not needed, he had P1 with about .600 of a second and then he put his foot down. . . The fact that he qualified 1.5 seconds faster than lewis was the cherry on the cake.
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I only watched the quali highlights before the race. Really enjoyed it, and it's like you said, VET was streets ahead from the start.
Wyvern
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For me that was the best part.
WP team to play the Pumas tomorrow. Jano Vermaak gets his 1st start for WP
15. Dillyn Leyds, 14. Kobus van Wyk, 13. Johnny Kotze, 12. Huw Jones, 11. Seabelo Senatla, 10. Robert du Preez, 9. Jano Vermaak, 8. Nizaam Carr (captain), 7. Sikhumbuzo Notshe, 6. Chris Cloete, 5. Ruan Botha, 4. Jan de Klerk, 3. Wilco Louw, 2. Bongi Mbonambi, 1. Oli Kebble:.
Replacements: 16. Michael Willemse, 17. Ali Vermaak, 18. Jean Kleyn, 19. Jurie van Vuuren, 20. Nic Groom, 21. Demetri Catrakilis, 22. Jaco Taute
15. Dillyn Leyds, 14. Kobus van Wyk, 13. Johnny Kotze, 12. Huw Jones, 11. Seabelo Senatla, 10. Robert du Preez, 9. Jano Vermaak, 8. Nizaam Carr (captain), 7. Sikhumbuzo Notshe, 6. Chris Cloete, 5. Ruan Botha, 4. Jan de Klerk, 3. Wilco Louw, 2. Bongi Mbonambi, 1. Oli Kebble:.
Replacements: 16. Michael Willemse, 17. Ali Vermaak, 18. Jean Kleyn, 19. Jurie van Vuuren, 20. Nic Groom, 21. Demetri Catrakilis, 22. Jaco Taute
Mclyle_
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Who do you think will take it this year?
Mclyle_
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Ne! Province having some dodgy performances, so dont know if they have it in them this season again.
AlienTaker
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Well i see one of 2 finals, Bulls vs Lions, Lions vs WP
And then there is this for next year
http://www.rugby.com.au/News/NewsAr...ounce-2016-Asteron-Life-Super-Rugby-draw.aspx
And then there is this for next year
http://www.rugby.com.au/News/NewsAr...ounce-2016-Asteron-Life-Super-Rugby-draw.aspx